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Subject: ASAP Conference Call Notes, June 8 2004
- From: Keith Swenson <KSwenson@us.fujitsu.com>
- To: "ASAP (E-mail)" <asap@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 14:10:02 -0700
Attendees
- Mayilraj Krishnan, Cicso
- Sameer Predhan, Fujitsu
- Keith Swenson, Fujitsu
- Nicole, Handysoft
- Susan Muldoon,
Handysoft
- John Fuller, Individual
- Jeffrey Ricker, Individual
- Ash Parikh, Iopsis
- Justin Brunt, Staffware
- Adrian, Staffware
Agenda Items
- Handysoft pretest was successfully accomplished last
Friday using the .Net client connecting to a server at their site.
- I wish to recognize the
help that Mayilraj Krishnan has been
doing keeping the spec up to date. He has new "g" version of
specification uploaded to site, including a document showing the differences
between this version and earlier versions.
- New demo scenario document on server contains results of
discussions last week, corrections to make consistent with specification. One
issue that came from Friday's interop pre-test is that Handysoft was not
prepared to handle a GetProperties request to the process instance. This is
not actually part of the demo script, but the client has the ability to make
it. Should we keep this in, or not.
- susan: agree that GetProperties is important, Handysoft
is OK with implementing that request/response for the demo. Staffware has
implemented GetProperties to factory, but still working on implementing
GetProperties to instance.
- Status of implementations
- .Net client: latest on site - not sure it validated the
change to history and event - will check this soon.
- Fujitsu: up to date with latest schema in specification
and test client, full round trip is supported. The "retail" role is
implemented for the ASAP scenario, still working on the "manufacturer" role
of WfXML scenario.
- Staffware status: factory works, instances not quite
finished. Pretest in next couple of days.
- EasyASAP: client now up to date, working on testing
most recent changes with the test client this morning. new version will have
result data mock up, started testing this morning, hopefully round trip this
afternoon. Recall completed request was faulting due to missing key. Expect
to have it running today or tomorrow.
- Handysoft: successful tst on Friday. Need to tweak for
latest schema changes, and add GetProperties on instance resource, but
expected in a few days.
- extended scenarios: getting the client to server to
server tested starting this week. Not strictly necessary, but tells a much
better story.
- Staffware is providing a backup .Net client machine. The
machins is there, but a few permissions problems need to be ironed out. The
address is http://193.131.190.26/ and should be available in a few days.
- ws-addressing status: There have been discussions at the
W3C architecture committee level about forming a group to standardize
WS-Addressing, but that is all we know at this point.
- There is a LOT of interest from the community right now:
besides the webinar on May 18, Keith will be speaking to Meta Group this week,
an editor from Info World, and other press and analysts. Keith will upload the
PPT slides from presentations to the site so that other can use them when
talking about ASAP.
- Where is the latest client? Sameer will upload the latest
clietn and server zip files to the site so that everyone will have access to
the latest.
Open Floor
- Question from Nicole at Handysoft. Why did you make the
change to "complex data type" and when will the changes stop? Actually this
was not a change. The demo data is the same as it always was, which is a set
of name and scalar value pairs. In order to describe this with XML Schema you
must use a "ComplexType" tag, but this does not imply that there is any
increase in complexity. There was always the requirement to use a ComplexType
tag, but the specification was ot clear on exactly how to use this. We have
extended the specification to make this clear, but it does not represent any
change in functionality.
- Comment from Sameer: client there is a button called
"list instances". Nice to have, to show off and test implementation. But not
part of demo, and so every participant may not have this implemented.
Staffware is implementing list instances to list the cases. Should be done
right away. Demo client is useful for trade show, but also useful in general.
Keith will investigate whether it is possible to disable the button for demo
timeframe.
- interop demo document should be full examples of the
messages. GetProperties on instance is missing, but what else is missing?
EasyASAP had a problem implementing the CompleteRs message when the .Net
client was not accepting the message. Was using URL at the site for namespace.
client makes some assumptions about the URL. Context data schema and result
data schema must have a namespace which is a generated URL which is unique for
the factory. John will do more testing and see if there are any remaining
issues.
Keith D Swenson, kswenson@us.fujitsu.com
Fujitsu Software
Corporation
1250 E. Arques Avenue, Sunnyvale, CA 94085
(408)
746-6276 mobile: (408) 859-1005
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