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Subject: MEETING MINUTES -- 02 NOV 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES -- 2 Nov 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE *** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end *** ** Agenda ** ------------ 0. Scribe for today's minutes 1. Roll call 2. Review/approve minutes from 12 October - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00004.html 3. Specification status (watch the list for notices of latest updates) - PDF: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00000.html - CHM: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00001.html - zipped source: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00002.html 4. Tables - accessibility - original note: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00009.html - follow-up: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00003.html - dita features for tables: - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00009.html 5. Recommendation on namespaces - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00015.html 6. List issues: - terminology: "vocabulary" or "document type" - dita-users: image/@align, tm/image 7. DTD cleanup - (Oct 5: France Baril will investigate and return with some options) 8. Announcements (will post this info to the list if we don't cover today) - OASIS Forum in New orleans (Lapeyre) - XML 2004 posters (Lapeyre) - DITA track at Content Management conference (Hackos) - OASIS Symposium: The Future of XML Vocabularies (Harnad) 9. AOB? - Schedule reminder: - 17 Aug 2004 - First major milestone -- complete first draft of first section and send out for review. - Begin review of 1st section. - 07 Sep 2004 - Complete review/revision of 1st section; begin review of 2nd section. - 28 Sep 2004 - Complete review/revision of 2nd section; begin review of 3rd section. - 19 Oct 2004 - Complete review/revision of 3rd section; beginning of final review - 02 Nov 2004 - Complete final review - 16 Nov 2004 - Release 1.0 spec to OASIS ** Minutes ** ------------- 0. Scribe for today's minutes - Seraphim is back on board to take the minutes. 1. Roll call - 12 of 18 -- we do have a quorum - Roll Call to be posted to the TC List separately. 2. Review/approve minutes from 12 October - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00004.html - Minutes approved. 3. Specification status (watch the list for notices of latest updates) - PDF: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00000.html - CHM: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00001.html - zipped source: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00002.html - Action Item for everyone -- Provide comments to Michael Priestley on the draft over the next week -- provide comments to Michael by Friday (Action Item 063). Then Michael will have the next iteration ready for the 11/9 meeting (Action Item 064). - We will continue this process till we are closer to completion. - We will shoot for 12/15 for final release, but Michael thinks it could possibly take till mid-January. 4. Tables - Accessibility - original note: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00009.html - follow-up: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00003.html - Discussion -- - Don -- Liason with DocBook -- we need to keep up a relationship here. It would be nice if both DocBook and DITA had the same approach to handling CALS/HTML formats for tables. - Michael Priestley -- Are we deferring any functionality currently used by IBM, to the 2.0 release? - Don -- No, we are deferring only the accessibility issued mentioned in the msg00009 above. - Don -- For 1.0, Don proposes that we postpone discussion of the issue of accessibility. DocBook will take a while to implement this anyway. - Proposal -- - Don proposes to defer the accessibility issue to post-1.0; we will track it together with DocBook at that point. - Decision -- Proposal accepted by acclamation. - DITA features for tables: - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00009.html -- This basically shows the differences between the DITA model and the Exchange model. - Discussion -- - Let's strike @expanse from this list, since we'll inherit @pgwidth from the Exchange model. - Let's add %id-atts to <entry> - Action Item for Don -- Don will edit the msg00009 to incorporate the changes based on our discussion, and send out again as a new proposal (to be decided by ballot, or at next meeting with no discussion -- discussion to take place by email). (Action Item 065). 5. Recommendation on namespaces - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00015.html - Proposal -- Bruce Esrig proposes that the message discussed here, with the modifications indicated below, be adopted. - (Item 1) Attribute *will* be renamed to DITAArchVersion - (Item 2) The OASIS TC will *recommend* this design pattern for all shells. - Decision -- Proposal accepted by acclamation. 6. List issues: - terminology: "vocabulary" or "document type" - dita-users: image/@align, tm/image 7. DTD cleanup - (Oct 5: France Baril will investigate and return with some options) 8. Announcements (will post this info to the list if we don't cover today) - OASIS Forum in New orleans (Lapeyre) - XML 2004 posters (Lapeyre) - DITA track at Content Management conference (Hackos) - OASIS Symposium: The Future of XML Vocabularies (Harnad) 9. AOB? ** Summary of Decisions ** -------------------------- - Decision -- Defer the accessibility issue to post-1.0; we will track it together with DocBook at that point. (See Item 4 in minutes.) - Decision -- Make changes to the namespace recommendations, as indicated in the minutes. (See Item 5 in minutes.) ** Action Required ** --------------------- 017 Shawn Jordan -- Post to the TC list his ideas about general extensibility and the creation of new elements not necessarily descended from the Topic element. Still open (not an immediate deliverable -- for post-1.0). 021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael Priestley -- Summarize the discussion of substitution and post to the TC list. Still pending as of 7/20/04. 022 Don, Michael -- Put together a "self-study" tutorial/demo, as per JoAnn's comments regarding the DITA sessions. Still pending as of 7/20/04. 036 Shawn Jordan -- Investigate where to point the DITA namespace -- where does the URL point? Maybe an OASIS page that describes what DITA does, etc. Still pending 8/17/04. 040 Don -- Cull the past minutes and discussion list to create an inventory of all the things we need to close on in order to create the 1.0 spec. Create a list of these items and post it in the Documents area of the website. >>> This will be ongoing. 043 Michael Priestley -- Add a straw-man audience statement to the introduction. <<< Done as of 11/2/04. 051 Don Day, 9/7/04 -- Take the discussion of @scale attribute and related issues to the list (presentation mechanisms). 052 Don Day, 9/14/04 -- Is anyone other than IBM actually using the scale attribute? Don to ask on dita-users forum; get usage info for next week's discussion. <<< We haven't heard from anyone else, so we'll assume that IBM is the primary user that has significant legacy usage of the @scale attribute. Closed 9/28/04. 054 Erik Hennum, 9/14/04 -- Provide a comment about vocabulary (terminology discussion) to the list. 055 Don, 9/21/04 -- Take the @scale discussion to the list. Ongoing. 058 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Compose a short note to the TAC. 10/12/04 -- Need to write up the notes. 059 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Open a ballot to decide whether to keep the full set of features for mitigating table migration. 060 Indi Liepa, 10/05/04 -- forward comments from audit of Nokia's specialization process Closed today: Indi Leepa comments. Have been transmitted to DITA user group. <<< Done as of 11/2/04. 061 Don Day, 10/05/04 -- reply to image align and tm notes in dita-users. 062 Eric Sirois, 10/05/04 -- provide XSLT validation for specialized schemas once developed (Indi recommends Jarno to work with him) 063 All, 11/02/04 -- Provide comments to Michael Priestley on the draft over the next week -- provide comments to Michael by Friday 11/5/04. (See item 3 in the 11/02/04 minutes for URLs). 064 Michael Priestley, 11/02/04 -- Incorporate comments into draft specification; prepare new iteration for 11/9 meeting. 065 Don Day, 11/02/04 -- Don will edit the msg00009 to incorporate the changes based on our discussion, and send out again as a new proposal (to be decided by ballot, or at next meeting with no discussion -- discussion to take place by email). ** Issues to be Resolved ** --------------------------- 005 All -- What should the scope and length of the conceptual introduction be? >>> We'll get this from JoAnn. 006 All -- Should DITA specialization mechanism be documented in a separate specification in order to make it easier to use in other XML applications that otherwise have no relationship to topic-based writing? >>> Ongoing. 008 Namespace Subcommittee -- Decide namespace issues. New as of 8/31/04. 009 "Best Practices" document -- Let's put this on the agenda for future discussion. 010 Relationship between DITA and other topic-based architectures (such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate this into the "Best Practices" document. 011 All -- Revisit use of @scale on image (general treatment of graphics, ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.). Compare/contrast with controls for the <object> element, which in HTML subsumes the <img> element. <END> ___________________________________________________________ Seraphim Larsen ICG Technical Publications Technical Writer Intel Corporation (480) 552-6504 Chandler, AZ The content of this message is my personal opinion only. Although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak on behalf of Intel on this matter. ___________________________________________________________
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