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Subject: RE: [dita] Book title in bookmap
I have to account for dependency issues in the bookmap proposal for the "design complete" consideration. Moving translateable attributes into elements is an accepted goal for DITA 1.2. Since our 1.1 work includes assessing other contingent proposals for completeness, I agree with the suggestion to include just the map/title element proposal as part of DITA 1.1 so that bookmap can properly include this contingent change in its complete proposal. Regards, -- Don Day Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee IBM Lead DITA Architect Email: dond@us.ibm.com 11501 Burnet Rd. MS9033E015, Austin TX 78758 Phone: +1 512-838-8550 T/L: 678-8550 "Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?" --T.S. Eliot "Gershon L Joseph" <gershon@tech-tav To .com> <gershon@tech-tav.com>, "'Farwell, Kevin'" 04/09/2006 09:17 <Kevin.Farwell@lionbridge.com>, AM Robert D Anderson/Rochester/IBM@IBMUS, <dita@lists.oasis-open.org> Please respond to cc <gershon@tech-tav .com> Subject RE: [dita] Book title in bookmap Hmf, reading further down the thread I see I answered in the middle... My take is let's do the minimum now to get bookmap working in 1.1, and move translatable attributes to elements in 1.2. Best Regards, Gershon -----Original Message----- From: Gershon L Joseph [mailto:gershon@tech-tav.com] Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:42 PM To: 'Farwell, Kevin'; 'Robert D Anderson'; dita@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [dita] Book title in bookmap Since we want to minimize the changes needed for 1.1, I also vote for option 1. Having elements for the map titles will also bring joy to those who convert non-DITA XML documents to DITA (since the title attributes in the map often inherit characters and markup that's not valid in XML attributes). Best Regards, Gershon -----Original Message----- From: Farwell, Kevin [mailto:Kevin.Farwell@lionbridge.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:36 PM To: Robert D Anderson; dita@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [dita] Book title in bookmap Hello, I'd vote for option 1. I'm not in favor of having any translatable content in the book map. That just makes one more file to translate, one more place to manage terminology, one more file to version, and one more place mistakes can be made. If the book file is only a collection of references to external content, the efficiency of the map is preserved. The conflict is unavoidable. People using book maps now, with their titles in attributes, will have to rework their files either way. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Robert D Anderson [mailto:robander@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:09 PM To: dita@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [dita] Book title in bookmap Don and I were working on the bookmap DTD, and ran in to a problem. When we originally put the proposal together, we were planning for one large release rather than the current 1.1 and 1.2 releases. As part of the design, we counted on proposed feature number 11, which had already been approved: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/13734/IssueNumber11.ht ml This is the proposal to make translatable attributes into elements. One of the items in that proposal is to add a <title> element to map, to be used instead of the title attribute. The book model really needs this title element in order to allow for more structured book titles, such as title + library information. Unfortunately, feature #11 was moved to 1.2, so it will not be released with bookmap. I see three possibilities: 1. We force the title into the bookmeta element. This could work, but will cause conflicts with the title element once 1.2 is released (and bookmap is updated for the change). 2. We do that one part of #11 in 1.1 -- we just allow the title element inside map. Leave the others for 1.2. 3. We let the 1.1 scope creep to include all of #11 I would vote for #2 - the partial implementation that brings the title element into maps. Any other thoughts? Robert D Anderson IBM Authoring Tools Development Chief Architect, DITA Open Toolkit (507) 253-8787, T/L 553-8787
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