Please ask your how-to question on
the DITA Users List. I'm not sure I fully understand your
requirement but I suspect you're making it harder than it
is.
Cheers,
E.
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ïOn 7/3/19, 7:38 AM, "Graydon Saunders"
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ÂÂÂ Do
ÂÂÂÂ we want to simply duplicate these examples in RNG?
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ The example I would like to have in RNG is the one
from my original question; constrain a mixed-content base
element's content model to be element-only so that the
constrained element is generally
ÂÂÂÂ available to domain modules incorporated into a
document type without requiring additional work on the
constraint if a domain is later added to the document.
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ I don't think there's currently an example of that
kind of constraint; experience says that this is a
reasonably frequent thing to want. I don't think it would
hurt to have a The Approved Way
ÂÂÂÂ example of doing so with a DTD, as well as the RNG
example.
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ÂÂÂ Subject: Re: [dita] Implementing a constraint with the
RNG _expression_ of the DITA 1.3 standard
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ The current spec contains examples of the following:
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ * Redefine the content model for the <topic>
element (DTD)
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ * Constrain attributes for the <section> element
(DTD)
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ * Constrain a domain module (DTD)
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ * Replace a base element with the domain extensions
(DTD)
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ * Apply multiple constraints to a single document-type
(DTD)
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ * Correct the constraint for the machinery task (DTD)
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ Do we want to simply duplicate these examples in RNG?
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ Best,
ÂÂÂ Kris
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ Kristen James Eberlein
ÂÂÂ Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
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ÂÂÂ On 7/2/2019 5:52 PM, Eliot Kimber wrote:
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ We should definitely have examples of RNG constraints.
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ The constraint modules shipped with DITA 1.3
demonstrate the general techniques.
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ But fundamentally it's the same as for DTDs: you
override the base declarations of the patterns.
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ Note that the current (unreleased but committed) state
of the RNG to DTD generator automatically translates RNG
<notAllowed> into the equivalent DTD entity
declaration overrides as required for wholesale constraint
of things defined in commonElements or topic.mod. This
makes defining this type of constraint much easier since
it does a whole bunch of cutting and pasting for you and
then automatically omits those things that you've marked
as not allowed.
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ Should I ever be able to actually get this code a
releasable state it will very convenient...
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ Cheers,
ÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂ E.
ÂÂÂ
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ÂÂÂ
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ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Yes, constraints can be expressed in RNG; RNG
is the normative
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ form of the DITA grammar files. In fact,
constraints are easier to
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ develop in in RNG than DTD!
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ The spec only contains examples of constraints
in DTD, rather
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ than RNG, because that is what we had
available and the
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ information that many people wanted.
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ TC members, should we consider reworking our
constraints examples
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ to be in RNG rather than DTD? Or adding
parallel examples with RNG
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ code?
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
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ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Kris
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
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ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ On 7/2/2019 1:26 PM, Graydon Saunders
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ wrote:
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ In terms of the mechanics, certainly, and
I will go post there.
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ In terms of whether it is possible to
support constraints -- as
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ distinct from specializations -- in the
RNG implementation, it
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ might be of interest to the technical
committee.
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ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ To:
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ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Subject: Re: [dita] Implementing a
constraint with the
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ RNG _expression_ of the DITA 1.3 standard
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Graydon, this is perhaps a better post for
the dita-users
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ list. The DITA TC list is for discussing
the work of the DITA
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Technical Committee.
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
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ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Kristen James Eberlein
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Consulting
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ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ On 7/2/2019 12:35 PM, Graydon
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Saunders wrote:
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
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ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Using the RNG
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ implementation of the DITA 1.3
standard, I want to
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ constrain the li element
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ so that its content model
permits only a p element.
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ I want to do this in such a way
that as domain
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ specializations are added to
document definitions,
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ those domain specializations
will acquire this
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ constraint without any further
changes being required.
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