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Subject: Raw Minutes Chat for meeting #204 on 2018-02-19
[18:00] Stefan Hagen: 1. Welcome by the chair (Stefan Hagen) [18:00] Stefan Hagen: 2. Minutes taker All write into the chat, Stefan assembles and uploads into document area. 3. Roll call [18:00] Stefan Hagen: AK, EJvN, SH in call - quorum reached [18:00] Stefan Hagen: 4. Approval of the agenda [18:01] Stefan Hagen: Agenda approved unchanged as published. [18:01] Stefan Hagen: 5. Approval of minutes from previous calls 5.1 Minutes from call #203 on 2018-02-05: URL = https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/62445/chat_trace_dss_kavi.txt [18:02] Stefan Hagen: Minutes approved unchanged as published. [18:02] Stefan Hagen: 6. Roadmap for 2018 6.1 Milestone DSS 2.0 Core/Base/MVP CSD01/CS01 stage 6.2 Milestone DSS 2.0 Popular Profiles CSD01 stage 6.3 Milestone DSS 2.0 other normative stages 6.4 Milestone DSS 2.0 supportive but supplementary non-normative materials [18:02] Stefan Hagen: 7. Core 2.0 issues discussion 7.1 Maintenance tasks [18:03] Stefan Hagen: Stefan suggests that Andreas appears as co-editor [18:03] Stefan Hagen: Ernst Jan also finds this very reasonable [18:03] Stefan Hagen: All agree [18:04] Stefan Hagen: Congrats Andreas! [18:04] Stefan Hagen: 7.2 Topology of schemas - structure and relation [18:04] Stefan Hagen: Nothing new [18:04] Stefan Hagen: 7.3 Editorial topics 7.3.1 Use of xs:any in DSS 2.0 [18:05] Stefan Hagen: AK: Last conclusion was to drop, so we will erase it from work products [18:05] Stefan Hagen: EJvH and SH agree on the strategy [18:07] Stefan Hagen: AK mentions that maybe in base schema there will remain one last any - but with a specific purpose and by request of TC members - and not as abundant maybe we would need some extension here in the future hook [18:07] Stefan Hagen: 7.3.2 Strategy for Mix-In of third party schema references [18:08] Stefan Hagen: AK sent two proposals that tackle different problems and that show how it would be done to the list [18:09] Stefan Hagen: AK would like to receive feedback from Frank. So, Andreas will explicitly send a short mail to the list, so Frank can focus on the feedback task [18:09] Stefan Hagen: 7.3.3 Workproduct organization [18:13] Stefan Hagen: AK and SH have two work streams here that MUST not interfere [18:14] Stefan Hagen: 1) Plain old Microsoft Word file used to push the v2 semantics so that other SDOs like eg. ETSI can have a fast look into our work (transparency and time to market optimal) [18:15] Stefan Hagen: 2) mid to long term finding a better suitable format (LaTeX or markdown) for diffs, and mixing one source into multiple reader determined views. That requires a working publication chain on the side of PASIS. [18:16] Stefan Hagen: s/PASIS/OASIS/ [18:16] Stefan Hagen: AK mentions, that there are other parties in the marketplace eagerly awaiting DSS v2 [18:20] Stefan Hagen: AK asks for a namespace for v2 [18:21] Stefan Hagen: SH if it is DSS v2 (and it SHALL be) then please use dss and not dss-x as namespace [18:21] Stefan Hagen: Andreas: quick question upfront: The new core namespace should be 'urn:oasis:names:tc:dss:2.0:core:schema' or 'urn:oasis:names:tc:dss-x:2.0:core:schema' ? [18:21] Stefan Hagen: Stefan Hagen: Hm, could we go for a URL based namespace (instead of URN)? [18:22] Stefan Hagen: Declared XML Namespaces: http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss-x/ns/localsig [18:23] Stefan Hagen: A winner: http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss-x/ns/core [18:24] Stefan Hagen: http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss/ns/core/v2 [18:24] Stefan Hagen: many more variations [18:25] Stefan Hagen: SH will ask Robin Cover with some suggestions so he can help us find the best decision [18:26] Stefan Hagen: 8. Profiles [18:27] Stefan Hagen: Still w.r.t. above core namespace topic [18:28] Stefan Hagen: Presumable winners could be (multiple new schema files): http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss-x/ns/core and http://docs.oasis-open.org/dss-x/ns/base etc. so that version tags would not make sense, as e.g.. base is a freshly created in this version [18:28] Stefan Hagen: Back to 8. Profiles [18:28] Stefan Hagen: Nothing new [18:28] Stefan Hagen: Nothing new [18:28] Stefan Hagen: EJvN is still waiting input from DH [18:29] Stefan Hagen: AK spent some time with the verification profile, but no reportable changes yet (still planning and projecting) [18:30] Stefan Hagen: 9. Next meeting Suggested to meet again on 2018-MAR-05 (usual bi-weekly schedule) [18:31] Stefan Hagen: All three of us agree to meet again, in thunder and rain [18:31] Stefan Hagen: 10. AOB [18:31] Stefan Hagen: None [18:32] Stefan Hagen: Meeting adjourned
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