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Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror ThreatsandContainer Shipment Tracking
Joe, Thanks for the clarification. It will be interesting to see what the FEA does outlines for the DRM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:32:42 -0400 To: phogan@sinotechnologies.com Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror ThreatsandContainer Shipment Tracking > Patrick, > > Thanks so much for the clarification. Your mention of a "key data > reference model" below caused me to wonder if you were talking about the > FEA DRM (whose release is imminent, according to public reports over the > past several weeks). I now see that you were speaking of the TRM. > > I would like to very respectfully clarify your original statement, given > this additional information. Your statement was: > > <Quote> > The CIO Council is using OASIS ebXML as a key data reference model for > its Federal Enterprise Architecture (FEA). The 28 federal departments, > including Homeland Security and Justice, must adhere to the FEA. > </Quote> > > I would respectfully say that your characterization of ebXML being used > as a "key data reference model", or "key" in any respect with regard to > the TRM is much too strong. ebXML is simply provided within the TRM as > an example of a standard that can be placed under the "Data Exchange" > category of the TRM taxonomy. It is not identified in any way as "key", > or critical, or important (not to say that it's not an important > standard) - it is simply provided as a reference. > > I just wanted to make sure that someone reading the original e-mail of > this thread did not misunderstand the representation of ebXML within the > publicly available reference models of the FEA. > > Respectfully, > Joe Chiusano > Booz Allen Hamilton > Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World > > phogan@sinotechnologies.com wrote: > > > > Joe, > > > > Here is the link t the FEA Technical Reference Model (TRM) with ebXML: > > http://www.feapmo.gov/featrm_service_specification.asp?@serviceareaid=114639&@servicecategoryid=114653&@servicestandardid=114654 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com> > > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:30:39 -0400 > > To: phogan@sinotechnologies.com > > Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror Threats andContainer Shipment Tracking > > > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > > > Could you perhaps elaborate on your reference below regarding ebXML and > > > the FEA Data Reference Model? I wasn't sure how to interpret your > > > description. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Joe Chiusano > > > Booz Allen Hamilton > > > Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World > > > > > > phogan@sinotechnologies.com wrote: > > > > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > The CIO Council is using OASIS ebXML as a key data reference model for its Federal Enterprise Architecture (FEA). The 28 federal departments, including Homeland Security and Justice, must adhere to the FEA. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com> > > > > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:54:58 -0700 > > > > To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>,"Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com> > > > > Subject: RE: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror Threats and Container Shipment Tracking > > > > > > > > > There are similar RFID initiatives already underway. > > > > > > > > > > What does ebXML add here? > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:39 AM > > > > > > To: Duane Nickull > > > > > > Cc: eGov OASIS; phogan@sinotechnologies.com; A.J. (Tony) Blazej > > > > > > Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror > > > > > > Threats and Container Shipment Tracking > > > > > > > > > > > > Duane, > > > > > > > > > > > > Turns out the WCO folks are harmonizing the Customs Handling > > > > > > form data. > > > > > > That's not enough level of detail into the container history itself. > > > > > > The old EDI US Customs 309 manifest and its UN equivalent > > > > > > shows overall > > > > > > manifest and packing of containers in vessel, but not history > > > > > > of containers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brainstorming this - seems like we need a lightweight system - > > > > > > preferably thru hand held devices that can scan container > > > > > > info' - and then > > > > > > input logistics tracking details - and WIFI that to an ebXML server. > > > > > > Making it hand-held means truck drivers can use them > > > > > > cab-side - and then the terminal can upload the information and > > > > > > consolidate the shipment history accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > DW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duane Nickull wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > David et al: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > World Customs Organization are the people to pitch this to > > > > > > I believe. > > > > > > > They are a UN org. They have something called the Secure container > > > > > > > initiative or something like that they are working on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David RR Webber wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I just saw the peice on 60 Minutes tonight - where the CEO of > > > > > > >> Hutchinson, who had > > > > > > >> 44% of container traffic worldwide - is desperately looking for > > > > > > >> support from > > > > > > >> governments to help turn around the current vulnerability > > > > > > situation. > > > > > > >> Having been > > > > > > >> ignored here in the USA. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > > > > > > the roster of the OASIS TC), go to > > > > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leav > > > > > > e_workgroup.php. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrick Hogan > > > > Sino Technologies Corp. > > > > (408)569-0973 > > > > http://www.sinotechnologies.com > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > > > > -- > > > Kind Regards, > > > Joseph Chiusano > > > Associate > > > Booz Allen Hamilton > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > > > > > Patrick Hogan > > Sino Technologies Corp. > > (408)569-0973 > > http://www.sinotechnologies.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > -- > Kind Regards, > Joseph Chiusano > Associate > Booz Allen Hamilton Patrick Hogan Sino Technologies Corp. 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