Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings,Terror Threats and Container Shipment Tracking

[Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com>]

Also:

There needs to be full tracking of all good in the container for risk 
assessment.  The UN does have a publication on this.  WCO, WTO and 
others all worked together to get some ideas down. 

There  are no implementations yet but the pain point is strong enough to 
ensure active interest.  The risk is that someone will explode a dirty 
nuclear bomb up the Thames.  There have been over 20 such plots, all of 
which were foiled in the making.  I shudder to think of the consequences 
of getting this wrong.

The UN is the correct agency for this work IMO.

Duane

David RR Webber wrote:

> John,
>
> The 60 minute peice explained that the RFID work just did not deliver 
> what's needed - all that does is ID the container
> and is part of the problem not the solution.
>
> There needs to be a proper tracking trail in place to account for the 
> life history of containers.  Therefore ebXML provides that
> means to do the backoffice automation and integration.
>
> Thanks, DW
>
> John Evdemon wrote:
>
>> There are similar RFID initiatives already underway.
>>
>> What does ebXML add here? 
>>  
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] Sent: Wednesday, 
>>> September 15, 2004 5:39 AM
>>> To: Duane Nickull
>>> Cc: eGov OASIS; phogan@sinotechnologies.com; A.J. (Tony) Blazej
>>> Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror Threats and 
>>> Container Shipment Tracking
>>>
>>> Duane,
>>>
>>> Turns out the WCO folks are harmonizing the Customs Handling form 
>>> data.  That's not enough level of detail into the container history 
>>> itself.
>>> The old EDI US Customs 309 manifest and its UN equivalent shows 
>>> overall manifest and packing of containers in vessel, but not history
>>> of containers.
>>>
>>> Brainstorming this - seems like we need a lightweight system - 
>>> preferably thru hand held devices that can scan container info' - 
>>> and then
>>> input logistics tracking details - and WIFI that to an ebXML 
>>> server.  Making it hand-held means truck drivers can use them
>>> cab-side - and then the terminal can upload the information and 
>>> consolidate the shipment history accordingly.
>>>
>>> DW
>>>
>>>
>>> Duane Nickull wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> David et al:
>>>>
>>>> World Customs Organization are the people to pitch this to     
>>>
>>> I believe.    
>>>
>>>> They are a UN org.  They have something called the Secure container 
>>>> initiative or something like that they are working on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Duane
>>>>
>>>> David RR Webber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>> I just saw the peice on 60 Minutes tonight - where the CEO of 
>>>>> Hutchinson, who had
>>>>> 44% of container traffic worldwide - is desperately looking for 
>>>>> support from
>>>>> governments to help turn around the current vulnerability       
>>>>
>>> situation.    
>>>
>>>>> Having been
>>>>> ignored here in the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>
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