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Subject: Re: [office] Microsoft ODF workshop
Doug, Rob, Thank you for your answers. It obviously clarifies a lot of points. I'm looking forward attending the virtual conference if that can be done. Cheers, Charles-H. Schulz. Le 24 juin 08 à 01:55, robert_weir@us.ibm.com a écrit : > > Thanks, Doug for that invitation and the additional information. > > I have received a note asking me why the TC was holding a meeting in > Redmond and suggesting that doing so would be discriminatory to > those who must pay for their own travel, etc. So I just want to > clarify, that this is not an official ODF TC meeting that is being > proposed. Microsoft is inviting you, as individuals to attend > their ODF event. There is nothing wrong with that. We (IBM) have > discussed ODF at our Lotusphere convention, Sun (and others) talk > about ODF at OpenOffice.org, etc. There is absolutely nothing wrong > with talking about ODF at your own corporate or organizational event. > > Indeed I hope you all talk about ODF at every opportunity. It is > something you should be talking about. Spread the word. > > -Rob > > > > Doug Mahugh <Doug.Mahugh@microsoft.com> > 06/23/2008 05:41 PM > > To > "Charles-H. Schulz" <charles-h.schulz@arsaperta.com>, "office@lists.oasis-open.org > " <office@lists.oasis-open.org> > cc > Subject > RE: [office] Microsoft ODF workshop > > > > > > Hi Charles, > > The short answer to why this event is in Redmond is "that's where > our ODF developers are." We've received many questions recently > about details of our planned ODF support, and we decided it would be > good to have an event where we could explain our plans, show some > pre-release code, and give people a chance to talk to the dev team > about how we're approaching ODF support. The only realistic way to > do that is in Redmond, since that's where the dev/PM people are > located. It would be difficult to find a time when they could all > be in another location (probably impossible until the next version > of Office is close to shipping), so this Redmond event is the only > way we can give everyone direct access to the people actually doing > our ODF implementation work. > > Regarding the invitation to the ODF TC, that was my idea. I thought > some might find it odd if we had an ODF-related event and didn't > start by inviting the TC, and I wanted to make sure that everyone > here knows they're welcome to attend if they're interested in > learning more about our implementation. We certainly weren't trying > to gather the OASIS TC specifically -- I and others at Microsoft > will be reaching out to others who have expressed an interest as > well, but we started here. > > Regarding Bruce's question on allowing virtual participation, I'm > looking into some options for that and will share info when I have it. > > Regards, > Doug > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles-H. Schulz [mailto:charles-h.schulz@arsaperta.com] > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 5:44 AM > To: Doug Mahugh; office@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [office] Microsoft ODF workshop > > Dear Doug, > > Le 23 juin 08 à 03:45, Doug Mahugh a écrit : > > > Hi everyone, > > > > As you know, Microsoft has recently announced support for ODF in the > > next service pack for Office (SP2 for Office 2007, expected to be > > released in the first half of 2009). In conjunction with that > > announcement, we would like to invite all members of the OASIS > > OpenDocument Format TC and subcommittees to a 1-day DII workshop on > > how Office will support ODF. The workshop will take place on > > Wednesday, July 30, 2008 in Redmond, Washington. > > > > This event will be an opportunity for you to see an early > > demonstration of our ODF support, meet members of the Office PM/dev > > teams responsible for ODF support, and hear how we're looking at > > document format interoperability in general. We're looking forward > > to the opportunity to get to know each of you and to learn about > > your view of these issues, and the day will include plenty of > > unstructured discussion time for those purposes. > > > > The Forum will be an all-day event on the Microsoft campus in > > Redmond, followed by a hosted dinner event at a nearby location. > > We're still working out the details of the day, but it will include > > three general types of activities: > > > > - Presentations from members of the Office product team, to explain > > our approach to ODF support and demonstrate some of the specific > > functionality we're planning. > > - Hands-on lab time, to give you an opportunity to try out a pre- > > release version of our ODF support. > > - Discussion time, so that we can hear your feedback on topics of > > interest to document format implementers. > > > > If you are interested in attending, please let me know by June 30th > > by sending email to dmahugh@microsoft.com. We will have limited > > space, so I wanted to extend this invitation to the ODF TC members > > first so that we can accommodate as many of you as would like to > > attend. We will provide additional information regarding logistics, > > local hotels, etc to confirmed attendees. > > > > This event will provide a unique opportunity to see firsthand how > > Microsoft is planning to implement ODF support in Office, and we > > hope that you will be able to join us. If you have any questions or > > need additional information, please let me know. > > > > Thank you for this invitation. I have to say I have some trouble > understanding why you would like to gather the OASIS TC in Redmond. It > seems to me a bit cumbersome, and a bit bizarre to invite everyone > here in Redmond as if nothing had ever happened before. Perhaps, as > some would put it, "it's a bit too early for that". Besides, I'm sure > we can have that event anywhere else . As you may know, the OASIS ODF > TC (together with its subcommittees and the OASIS ODF Adoption TC) > runs several panels and conferences worldwide. The next one, if I am > not mistaken, will take place in Beijing during the ODF Track at the > OpenOffice.org Conference. It is scheduled to take place around > October-November 2008. > > This ODF track is independent from the OpenOffice.org Conference as > several different and competing vendors attend this conference track. > We would really appreciate to have you and the Microsoft Office team > there. > > I hope you understand my reaction to your invitation but please rest > assured that I really appreciate it. That being said, I only express > myself on the behalf of my company, Ars Aperta, (mostly four French > guys in a garage) and my views may not represent the ones of the whole > OASIS ODF TC. > > Best Regards, > > Charles-H. Schulz > Associé / Founding Partner, > Ars Aperta >
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