1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights
2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda
3. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 18 September 2023 -
4. Status update/review on last week's editors work
5. Continue discussion last issue
The proposal should be updated to be specific. Which target version? (JIRA "Fix Version" property).
6. Issue OFFICE-4147: Wrong algorithm in 4.11.7.7 Procedure E in part 4
We need to vote on the existing proposal and the target version (JIRA "Fix Version" property).
7. Additions to applied OFFICE-4110 which is related to draw:handle
We need to vote on the existing proposal and the target version (JIRA "Fix Version" property).
8. Check Issues
The query "project = OFFICE AND status = New AND fixVersion is EMPTY" shows 17 issues (including 4147 above)
9. Adjournment.
[18:04] Svante Schubert: 1) We have Quorum
[18:05] Svante Schubert: 2) Change today's agenda?
[18:06] Regina Henschel:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4094[18:08] Francis Cave:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/email/archives/202309/msg00033.html[18:08] Svante Schubert: Regina: There are updates.
[18:08] Svante Schubert: We make it the new #5
[18:08] Svante Schubert: 3) Minutes approved unanimously
[18:09] Svante Schubert: 4) Status update/review on last week's editors work
[18:09] Svante Schubert: Francis: Change is applied
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4148 as in resolution field!
[18:09] Svante Schubert: b)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4145[18:10] Svante Schubert: Regina: Francis' wording is fine!
[18:10] Svante Schubert: Francis will move it to Github and close the issue
[18:11] Svante Schubert: we all agree
[18:11] Svante Schubert: c)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4141 (TC action required: vote: does paragraph add semantic?)
[18:11] Svante Schubert: Email from Regina:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202309/msg00034.html[18:12] Svante Schubert:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202309/msg00034/Compare_first_and_last_paragraph.odt[18:14] Francis Cave: I agree with Regina that the first paragraph is more precise and that the last paragraph adds nothing new, so the last paragraph should be removed.
[18:16] Francis Cave: I would prefer in the final sentence of the first paragraph: "...they determine for certain character..." -> "...they determine for a specific character...".
[18:17] Svante Schubert: The TC agree unanimously on the above proposal
[18:20] Svante Schubert: We all agree this is an editorial issue. We just flag it as editorial and flag it as ODF Next.
[18:21] Svante Schubert: It may stay in JIRA.
[18:21] Svante Schubert: Regina: for new editorial issues we will open a new GitHub issue
[18:23] Svante Schubert:
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odf-tc/labels/ODF%201.5[18:23] Svante Schubert: all our labels:
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odf-tc/labels[18:23] Svante Schubert: d)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4115 (@Regina fine with you? - marked at duplicated with 4030)
[18:23] Svante Schubert:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202309/msg00035.html[18:23] Svante Schubert: Regina: agrees!
[18:24] Svante Schubert: e)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4099 (reviewed by Svante - closed, moved to GitHub -
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odf-tc/issues/35#issuecomment-1724322419)
[18:24] Svante Schubert: This is fine
[18:25] Svante Schubert: 5)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4094https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/email/archives/202309/msg00033.htmlRegina: There are updates.
[18:26] Svante Schubert: Regina: From the reporter of the LO bug from Eike Rathke.
[18:26] Svante Schubert: Please have a look at these comments:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136615#c38https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136615#c39https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136615#c40https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136615#c43[18:28] Svante Schubert: Regina: We should read the above comments for next time.
[18:28] Svante Schubert: Francis: We will go back to the resolve state and will add a comment.
[18:29] Svante Schubert: Unanimous agreement.
[18:29] Svante Schubert: 6. Continue discussion last issue
a)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4112The proposal should be updated to be specific. Which target version? (JIRA "Fix Version" property).
[18:31] Svante Schubert:
https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#attribute-number_calendar[18:34] Svante Schubert:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/202109/msg00000.html[18:35] Regina Henschel: What date has the day before 1582-10-15 in a "proleptic" Gregorian calendar?
[18:38] Svante Schubert:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proleptic_Gregorian_calendar[18:41] Svante Schubert: ISO 8601:2004 (clause 3.2.1 The Gregorian calendar)
[18:42] Svante Schubert: There are now two parts in 2019 version -
https://www.iso.org/standard/70907.html[18:42] Svante Schubert: Regina: we only can further if we have a copy of the ISO clause
[18:44] Svante Schubert:
https://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/index.html[18:44] Svante Schubert: ISO 8601 is not part of the public available standards
[18:45] Michael Stahl: LibreOffice apparently supports at least 5 different calendars, including "gregorian"
[18:46] Francis Cave: I will try to get hold of a copy of ISO 8601 clause 3.2.1.
[18:47] Svante Schubert: 7. Issue OFFICE-4147: Wrong algorithm in 4.11.7.7 Procedure E in part 4
The issue two weeks ago, please be prepared! Please read in advance!
a)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4147b)
https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/os/part4-formula/OpenDocument-v1.3-os-part4-formula.html#Basis-ProcedureEc)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/12086/Steps%20manually.odsWe need to vote on the existing proposal and the target version (JIRA "Fix Version" property).
[18:48] Svante Schubert:
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odf-tc#overview to open the HTML versions of ODF 1.4
[18:48] Svante Schubert:
https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part4-formula/OpenDocument-v1.4-part4-formula.html#Basis-ProcedureE[18:52] Svante Schubert: Regina: in 4.11.7.7 Procedure E the initial truncate is missing as (in A,B,C), first suggestion is to add it
[18:54] Svante Schubert: Regina: Next problem:
[18:57] Regina Henschel: The later comparisons month(date1) < month(date2) and day(date1) < day(date2) requires, that date1 < date2. Thus the values need to be exchanged if not. That is done in procedure A, B and C in ".If date1> date2, then swap the values of date1 and date2. ". The same Âstep has to be added to procedure E.
[19:02] Svante Schubert: Regina: 3rd Problem is in the formula:
Evaluate F: (A and B) or (A and C) or (A and D and E)
A must be true that F can be true
[19:03] Svante Schubert: Regina: 7.If F is true then return the average of the number of days in each year between date1 and date2, inclusive. Â
8.Otherwise, if A and is-leap-year(year(date1)) then return 366
^(A and) is redundant
[19:03] Svante Schubert: Regina: it has to be NOT A and
[19:03] Svante Schubert: Michael: agrees
[19:05] Svante Schubert: Regina: We should all look at it and write if there are remaining questions
[19:05] Svante Schubert: So we can decide on it in the next meeting
[19:07] Svante Schubert: As I am travelling next week, our next TC meeting will be on the 9th of October.
[19:07] Svante Schubert: Meeting adjourned