Rough notes from 5 February 2024 ODF Teleconference

[Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>]

Greetings!

Rough notes from the 5 February 2024 teleconference follow below.

Minutes and the agenda for next week will follow this afternoon.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!

Patrick

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[11:58]ÂPatrick: 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights
2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 29 January 2024 -
3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda
4. Editor's work review: Update on ODF 1.4 editing progress sheet (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick)
5. OFFICE-4090: style:use-window-font-color missing a definition of "window foreground color" (Presenter: Svante & Michael)
6. OFFICE-4141: style:script-type has redundant paragraph (Presenter: Svante or Regina)
7. OFFICE-4124: 'clear' attribute for line breaks (Presenter: Regina)
8. OFFICE-3926: Use of attribute style:list-style-name in connection with pure <text:h> element is unclear (Presenter: Svante)
9. OFFICE-2093: Update: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2093 (Presenter: Svante)
10.  OFFICE-3926: Use of attribute style:list-style-name in connection with pure <text:h> element is unclear (Presenter: Svante)
11. Adjournment.

[12:03]ÂPatrick: quorum - yes - 5 of 6

[12:04]ÂPatrick: 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 29 January 2024 -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202402/msg00004.html

[12:04]ÂPatrick: approved by consent

[12:06]ÂPatrick: Agenda - Francis - report on ODF 1.3 between 4 and 5 - with that addition - agenda approved by consent

[12:06]ÂPatrick: 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 29 January 2024 -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202402/msg00004.html

[12:06]ÂPatrick: Francis - continued with clean up on styles

[12:07]ÂPatrick: Reformatted - notices - Paul - with corrected front matter

[12:07]ÂPatrick: 5. Francis on ONF 1.3 submission

[12:09]ÂPatrick: Rachel - has all the information she needed - now ISO will prepare the ballot - starts in about 8 weeks time - SC 34 will meet and have a brief introduction to the submission.

[12:09]ÂFrancis Cave: Lisa Rajchel

[12:09]ÂPatrick: 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 29 January 2024 -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202402/msg00004.html

[12:10]ÂPatrick: 6. OFFICE-4090: style:use-window-font-color missing a definition of
"window foreground color" (Presenter: Svante & Michael)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4090
https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#property-style_use-window-font-color
https://libreofficemaster.blogspot.com/2022/03/libreoffice-dark-mode-on-windows.htmls
(Presenter: Regina)

[12:10]ÂPatrick: Regina - has changed the proposal text in OFFICE-4090 -

[12:12]ÂPatrick: Regina - current text says white but prefers light

[12:13]ÂPatrick: Francis - implementation-dependent instead of implementation-defined

[12:15]ÂPatrick: The style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether the font color is set automatically, depending on the background color of the text. With a dark background color, the font color is light; with a light background color, a dark font color is used. The definition of when a background color is dark or light is implementation-dependent.

[12:16]ÂMichael Stahl: The definition of when a background color is dark or light and the choice of the font color are implementation-dependent.

[12:17]ÂFrancis Cave: he style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether the font color is set automatically, depending on the background color of the text. The definition of when a background color is dark or light and the choice of the font color are implementation-dependent.

[12:18]ÂPatrick: The style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether the font color is set automatically, depending on the background color of the text. The definition of when a background color is dark or light and the choice of the font color are implementation-dependent.

[12:22]ÂFrancis Cave: The style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether the font color is set automatically, depending on the background color of the text is dark or light. The definition of when a background color is dark or light and the choice of the font color are implementation-dependent.

[12:23]ÂFrancis Cave: The style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether the font color is set automatically, depending on whether the background color of the text is dark or light. The definition of when a background color is dark or light and the choice of the font color are implementation-dependent.

[12:31]ÂPatrick: The style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether or not the font color is set automatically, depending on the background color of the text. (end of first paragraph)

[12:32]ÂFrancis Cave: The style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether or not the font color is set automatically, according to the background color of the text.

[12:34]ÂFrancis Cave: true: the font color depends on the text background color and is automatically set by the consumer. A fo:color attribute is ignored in this case. The way in which a consumer chooses the font color is implementation-dependent.

[12:37]ÂFrancis Cave: The style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether or not the font color is set automatically according to the background color of the text.

[12:37]ÂFrancis Cave: true: the font color depends on the text background color and is automatically set by the consumer. The way in which a consumer chooses the font color is implementation-dependent. A fo:color attribute is ignored in this case.

[12:38]ÂFrancis Cave: true: the font color depends on the text background color and is automatically set by the consumer. The way in which it is set is implementation-dependent. A fo:color attribute is ignored in this case.

[12:46]ÂFrancis Cave: true: the font color depends on the text background color and is automatically set by the consumer. The choice of font color and how it is chosen are set is implementation-dependent. A fo:color attribute is ignored in this case.

[12:47]ÂFrancis Cave: true: the font color depends on the text background color and is automatically set by the consumer. The choice of font color and how it is chosen are implementation-dependent. A fo:color attribute is ignored in this case.

[12:50]ÂPatrick: ********************
The style:use-window-font-color attribute determines whether or not the font color is set automatically, according to the background color of the text. (first paragraph to end)

definition of true: true: the font color depends on the text background color and is automatically set by the consumer. The choice of font color and how it is chosen are implementation-dependent. A fo:color attribute is ignored in this case.

Note is fine.

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[12:51]ÂPatrick: consent to the resolution as specified.

[12:52]ÂPatrick: Francis to mark as resolved, fix version as ODF 1.5

[12:53]ÂPatrick: Feb. 12th - Michaels security proposals -

[12:54]ÂPatrick: Alfred - expert will be appearing on the crypto issue - Raul Garcia -

[12:54]ÂAlfred Hellstern: Raul Garcia

[12:56]ÂPatrick: 8.  OFFICE-4141: style:script-type has redundant paragraph (Presenter: Svante or Regina)
We already agreed on this editorial issue and it is also added by myself to our GitHub, but the issue has not the resolution "RESOLVED"!
Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"?
Carried over for examination/discussion.

[12:59]ÂPatrick: include in 1.4 or set to 1.5?

[13:00]ÂPatrick: set to 1.5 - Francis setting to resolved and 1.5.

[13:00]ÂPatrick: adjourned