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Subject: Re: [tab-askthetab] FW: [askthetab] errata question
Hal - Good point. Would you please take Mary's note (back to the questioner), the discussion on this issue, and your previous memo, and draft a brief reply that we can post on the Ask The TAB part of the Wiki? It would be good to have a draft early next week so we can publish this month. Thanks! bill Abbie Barbir wrote: Hal Well said Regards Abbie -----Original Message----- From: Hal Lockhart [mailto:hal.lockhart@oracle.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:37 PM To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; Ask The TAB Subject: RE: [tab-askthetab] FW: [askthetab] errata question Actually, the original concept behind OASIS errata was that errata should be an attempt to restore the original intent of the document. This primarily falls into two categories: 1. Mistakes. 2. Clarifications. As I pointed out in the memo I wrote which led to the definition of the current process, one of the most common errors is to leave out the word "not" in a sentence. Correcting such a sentence is technically an incompatible change, although perhaps the error was recognized from the first and ignored by implementers. Therefore I would argue that there are (admittedly rare) cases where an "incompatible" change might be allowed. However as a practical matter, I think it is reasonable to say that when things are computer enforced, e.g. by Schema validation, then it may be most practical to enforce the current no incompatible changes policy. However if the point in question is only specified in text, I think it would be reasonable to allow if the original intent is clear to all. Personally I think the Board got the definition wrong, but there is only so much I can do to influence the TAB, let alone the Board. Hal-----Original Message----- From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mary McRae Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:13 PM To: 'Ask The TAB' Subject: [tab-askthetab] FW: [askthetab] errata question FYI - my response to Jacob. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Mary McRae [mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:32 PM To: 'Jacob Westfall'; 'AskTheTAB@lists.oasis-open.org' Subject: RE: [askthetab] errata question Hi Jacob, While your question was directed to the TAB, I wanted to make sure you were aware of the definition of "substantive change" as stated in the OASIS TC Process: "Substantive Change" is a change to a specification that would requirea compliant application or implementation to be modified or rewritten in order to remain compliant. That means that if an implementation currently validates against an existing normative schema, and the proposed changes would result in that same implementation no longer validating, the change is deemedsubstantive.For instance, if a list of items is required to be in a particular order and you change that order, an existing valid instance would no longer validate. Similarly, if you changed the spelling or case of an element name - even if it's to fix a 'typo' - an existing valid instance would no longer validate. Note that the substantive change bar is also applied when changes are made to drafts after public review. If substantive changes have been made, another (shorter) public review is required before the work can be advanced. I hope that helps somewhat. Regards, Mary ___________________________________________________________ Mary P McRae Director, Technical Committee Administration OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org web: www.oasis-open.org phone: 1.603.232.9090-----Original Message----- From: Jacob Westfall [mailto:jake@jpw.biz] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:30 PM To: AskTheTAB@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [askthetab] errata question Hi, I have a question about what an errata to a specification can contain. Primarily what changes can be made to a simpleType enumeration list in a schema under the errata process. Can items inthe list be changed perhaps for correction or updated as needschange?Can new items be added to the list, perhaps to correct an oversight? What would be considered a substantive change? Thanks, -- jake@jpw.biz -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: askthetab-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: askthetab-help@lists.oasis-open.org--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. 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