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Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] UBL v2 Rev - #2
Hi Chee-Kai Thanks for the comment on the SBS columns. I've just about finished deciding what the initial values could be here but we were in a rush with the package so I didn't yet get time to update the spreadsheets, forgetting though that these columns might ideally have been deleted for this review. It might be that I have time to populate the columns but I'll pass a note to the TC that maybe they should be hidden or deleted for the review. I think the review though has yet to start officially and there may be time for such last minute changes. All the best Steve >>> Chin Chee-Kai <cheekai@softml.net> 05/01/06 11:18:18 >>> I thought I'd like to just mumble some words before I go on with UBL v2 review comments... For a company who's been awarded plenty of credits and appreciation for helping to generate v1.0 & v2.0 schemas by TC, it's probably saddening or disappointing for members to learn that they've actually been thought of as simple-minded technically-incompetent people. As an individual who's helped in UBL v1.0-beta's schema generation, I faced no less pressure and frustration at that time either. Yet, I thought it was due to the collective members' differences in opinions that had resulted in a grand final beta product that best matched everyones' interests. Every contributing members' expertise, concerns or ideas in even orthogonal aspects helped. If everyone participating only focused on technical XML, it'd really weaken UBL than what little merit it may get in quickly generating a XML-compliant schema set that deals scarcely with the concerns of all members. I can empathize with people who might be locked in the crunch time now with various deadlines, versions, data, opinion, changes etc to deal with. But I humbly ask that volunteers do voluntary work happily and professionally, and if you can't feel happy about doing it, then do something else. Also, some wind blew words in me that someone remarked that Tim McGrath "thinks he is an expert". I hope whoever made that remark would care to read about his contributions, publications, background, his patient attitude towards explaining somewhat complex concepts to newcomers especially from Asia countries, his persistence and relentless commitment to attend various meetings at even far eastern countries, and his boldness in bringing UBL's benefits to Asian and European countries whose hosting organisations have held kind regards of him. If I'm making all this up, I'm sure I'd be flamed very soon. But I'd stand here ready to be flamed as I need to correct whoever said those words in quotes. Alright, let me continue... Below refers to UBL v2 working draft package at Jon's URL http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/wd-UBL-2.0.zip - It is mentioned in "index.html" Appendix D that UBL's NDR 2.0 "will be released as part of UBL 2.0 publication". If there are differences detected in this working draft schema set, it would be very difficult for us on ubl-dev to check whether it is a deliberate difference due to changes in NDR 2.0, or due to schema generation problems, or editing, or other possible sources. NDR does directly, and sometimes significantly, affect how schemas are constructed from the model spreadsheets. So without NDR 2.0's availability, it seems to make our public review more a reading appreciation than actual checking on the quality/correctness. - File "wd-UBL-2.0.pdf", the PDF version of "index.html", appears to have many of its diagrams cut off on their right. In addition, other than the unwanted "<?xml version=....>" stuff on the first page first line and the "Copyright 00A9; 2001-2005 OASIS..." on the last page first line, some of the relative hyperlinks such as those pointing to xsd and xls don't work (when clicked, browser points to C:\d\ubl\2\mod\lib\UBL-CommonLibrary-2.xls", for instance). - For CoreComponentParameters-2.xsd, there appears to be a dangling <xsd:element name="Instance" type="InstanceType" /> The InstanceType is also defined and used by this dangling element defintion, so that InstanceType is also dangling. - In the model spreadsheet, there are many columns of "Small Business Subset ..." (columns AF to AW). And some of these cells have "Y" as data. Since XSDs are the only normative product of UBL v2, should it not be the case that these SBS column values are transported and stored into XSD's documentation tags? Otherwise those values might be lost in the spreadsheets which are "non-normative". Best Regards, Chin Chee-Kai SoftML Tel: +65-6820-2979 Fax: +65-6743-7875 Email: cheekai@SoftML.Net http://SoftML.Net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- This publicly archived list supports open discussion on implementing the UBL OASIS Standard. To minimize spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ Alternately, using email: list-[un]subscribe@lists.oasis-open.org List archives: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-dev/ Committee homepage: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php Join OASIS: http://www.oasis-open.org/join/
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