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Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Representing taxable freight charges in an Invoice
Thank you Tim, I believed that was your scenario and I wanted provide you the elements to decide. Best regards Roberto > If the intention is that all invoices that attract delivery > charges should be represented by > FreightInvoice, then this could be made clearer in the UBL documentation. > > In section 4.6.1, "Billing Business Rules Assumed" it discusses > packaging, delivery/postage, > and freight in the context of Invoice. No mention is made of > FreightInvoice. > > Section 4.6.4, "Freight Billing" talks about using Freight Invoices, in > the context of transport > service providers invoicing customers for logistics services, not for the > goods being transported. > > Section 4.11. "Document Types" describes FreightInvoice as "A document > issued by a transport > operation specifying freight costs and charges incurred for a transport > operation and stating > conditions of payment." > > Regards, > > Tim > > Roberto Cisternino wrote: Generally speaking it is a bad idea to > change the semantic meaning of a business document, in UBL 2.0 and UBL > 2.1 the FreightInvoice is the best for freights. Technically speaking the > Invoice and FreightInvoice differs just for one aggregate "Shipment" > which is exaclty containing he requirements for freight practices. I add > also that if anyone should choose an invoice for advanced cross-border > that document is the FreightInvoice. OIOUBL is not a good reason for not > using it if you are not implementing their profile... In your sample you > can choose between filling up teh TaxCategory inside the AllowanceCharge > (for simple cases) or the TaxCategory available inside > TaxTotal/TaxSubTotal (for more complex cases with subtotals) The > TaxTotal aggregate has the same structure of the one you find on the line > items. best regards Thanks for the response. I'd > ruled out FreightInvoice earlier as for my purposes, freight is treated > as just another line item. Looks like neither OIOUBL nor NESUBL use it > either. Here is the updated example as per your other suggestions: > true Freight 10.00 10.00 > GST 1.00 true Untaxed freight > 10.00 00.00 GST > 0.00 Also, whats the rationale behind including TaxCategory in > AllowanceCharge but not on InvoiceLine? On InvoiceLine it looks like it > must be specified via the TaxSubtotal, requiring elements to be > duplicated. From the UBL-Invoice-2.0-Example.xml: 100.00 > 17.50 true 100.00 17.50 > A UK VAT VAT ..... > Thanks, Tim Roberto Cisternino wrote: please remove the 2nd row > of my answer... sorry Hello, as the TaxAmount is separated by > th 1st of all I believe you are using an UBL-FreightInvoice-2.0 The > FreightInvoice is exaclty an UBL Invoice with an additional aggregate > called "Shipment" where you can find a specific "FreightAllowanceCharge" > data structure. GST is a scheme of tax, so you have to explode the > TaxTotal and specify the TaxCategory where you can put a percentage and > expand the TaxScheme to specify "GST" on its ID. You can further fill up > the TaxCategory with further information related to the GST category use > case. Hope this helps, Roberto Cisternino Hi all, > how is freight typically represented in an Invoice? I want to represent > freight costs which may or may not attract 10% GST. E.g: > true Freight with GST 10.00 1.00 > true Freight without GST 50.00 I'm assuming that > the AllowanceCharge/Amount and > Invoice/LegalMonetaryTotal/ChargeTotalAmount exclude tax. 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