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Subject: RE: [ubl] Global vs. Local -- Gunther's Recommendation
After a discussion offline with Mark I need to add the following. I realise the first message came out in a way that is easy to misunderstand. What is really there is acutally the support for Venetian Blind and the opportunity to both locally and globally define elements not only one or the other! Welcome to the rathole! Regards Stig Korsgaard M.Sc.E., Standardisation Coordinator Danish Bankers Association Tel: +45 33 70 10 83 Cell: +45 21 21 82 34 Fax: +45 33 93 02 60 E-mail: stk@finansraadet.dk -----Original Message----- From: Stig Korsgaard Sent: 17. marts 2003 17:18 To: 'Eve L. Maler' Cc: ubl@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [ubl] Global vs. Local -- Gunther's Recommendation Hi Eve, Of course you are not a pain, but I guess we all know the feeling of pushing send to an e-mail knowing that seconds after it will hit you like a boomerang shaped in the size of a B2 bomber! On the questions we have not experience enough to actually give the answers you are looking for! What I realized is that we have designed from the point of view that if we do not want to reuse an element why make it global. This feature is allowed in Venetian Blind, as you for sure already know! Also the possibility to localize namespaces has been a wish while although not crucial. A third thin is that I have a feeling about context playing a role, but that is still far from clear enough for me to start comment on this. It does not imply though that the current UBL approach would mean the end of the world for us. We could fairly simple go from our current approach to the current preferred of NDR/UBL, but since the decision is still up for grabs, we just gave our opinion, to wich we stand. Anyway I guess this is perhaps what it is and that is a question of religion! It is though still much easier to make elements global in Venetian Blind than it is to localize in Garden of Eden. Best Regards Stig Korsgaard M.Sc.E., Standardisation Coordinator Danish Bankers Association Tel: +45 33 70 10 83 Cell: +45 21 21 82 34 Fax: +45 33 93 02 60 E-mail: stk@finansraadet.dk -----Original Message----- From: Eve L. Maler [mailto:eve.maler@sun.com] Sent: 17. marts 2003 15:37 To: Stig Korsgaard Cc: ubl@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [ubl] Global vs. Local -- Gunther's Recommendation Hi Stig, I don't mean to be a pain, and as I indicated, I can easily see how local elements simulate properties of OO classes most directly. But can I ask you to comment, given your experience, on the issues I raised in my message of the 14th? I'm really trying to understand what the technical deficits of global elements are. In particular: - What problems would/did you experience in doing an OO mapping if the elements were global? - What maintenance or packaging problems would/did you experience if the elements were global? - Have you created any new document types using datatype or element piece-parts from your original library, and if so, how did you find the "interface" between the native/foreign element switching in the instances? Thanks, Eve Stig Korsgaard wrote: > Dear all, > > Having carefully considered the arguments around Local vs. Global my opinion > is that I support the recommendation and arguments of Gunther by using local > defined elements instead of global defined elements. We are alreday using > the Venetian Blind design style in several national projects in Denmark > including Finance and Government. And especially the possibility of only > having elements declared global if there is a reason behind it has through > experience proved to be beneficial. > > Best Regards > > Stig Korsgaard > M.Sc.E., Standardisation Coordinator > Danish Bankers Association > Tel: +45 33 70 10 83 > Cell: +45 21 21 82 34 > Fax: +45 33 93 02 60 > E-mail: stk@finansraadet.dk -- Eve Maler +1 781 442 3190 Sun Microsystems cell +1 781 354 9441 Web Technologies and Standards eve.maler @ sun.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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