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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 30 June 2004
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC MEETING
15H00 - 17H00 UTC WEDNESDAY 30 JUNE 2004
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ATTENDANCE
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Oriol Bausą
Jon Bosak
Sally Chan
Tony Coates
Michael Dill
Jessica Glace
Anne Hendry
Lisa Seaburg
Paul Thorpe
Sylvia Webb
Regrets: Mavis Cournane, Mark Crawford, Mike Grimley, Eduardo
Gutentag, G. Ken Holman
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STANDING ITEMS
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{Standing_Agenda:6} Calendar review
JG: OTA conference 21 September in Chicago; will check with
organizers to see whether she can present on UBL.
{Standing_Agenda:7} Event reports
None this week.
{Standing_Agenda:9} Phone schedule
JB: It's done and online at this persistent URL:
http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/phones.xls
Please check this matrix before setting up phone conferences
and notify JB whenever you make an addition or change to the
schedule.
{Standing_Agenda:14} MarkC: ATG meeting in Walldorf
(also {UBL11:9} CCTS schemas)
MarkC not on this call; carry forward.
{Standing_Agenda:20} HISC: discuss UN eDocs 20040617
Appoint a liaison to UN eDocs?
GKH and FA not on this call; carry forward.
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SUBCOMMITTEES AND WORK TEAMS
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{Teamwork:3} HISC
GKH and FA not on the call, so no report this week.
{Teamwork:4} SSC
SW: Pacific call was brief; the SC has decided to try to get
info from groups working on UBL implementations.
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PRIORITY ITEMS FOR THIS MEETING
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{Documents:2} NDR Specification -- Editorial
MarkC: draft due to TC by 20040628
MarkC not on this call; carry forward.
{Documents:6} Code list specification -- Design: code list extension
TC and MB: Meet offline and report back 20040630
TC: Have not yet contacted Marty; carry forward to next week.
{Schema_Gen:9} Schema generation tools -- Binding the process
to EDIFIX
SW: Have date for delivery of this paper to JB by 20040625
SW: Posted a note clarifying MD's previous emails and
explaining in detail what we are talking about; we are not
suggesting a master repository that does away with
spreadsheets, so a position paper would not be productive at
this time. We need to allow everyone time to read the email
and determine the next step.
JB: Will put this on the agenda for discussion after 1.0.
{UBL10:3} Public comment log
BM: log input from Gunther
BM not on this call; carry forward.
{UBL10:5} Schema/spreadsheet alignment
SP/MD/AH: Generate proposed solutions for the four main
categories (and, if possible, the seven harder cases)
via email copied to SG and TM.
SG/TM: Review proposed solutions Monday and have
recommendations to the TC for the obvious cases done
by late Monday night London time if possible.
Comments/recommendations were posted by SG and TM. MD posted
comments, too, but his spreadsheet attachment didn't come
through in time for the meeting. [AH joined the meeting at this
point, but we forgot to go back and get an SSC report.]
{UBL10:6} Issues review
TC review to begin 20040630.
We discussed how best to proceed with AH's issues list:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200406/msg00126.html
In the end, we decided to just work down from the top and
invent a procedure as we progressed. We managed to get
entirely through Chee-Kai's comments of 25 May. AH had not yet
caught up with latest input from MD and TM, but we discussed it
as we moved down the list. AH added their responses to C-K's
comments in Column H, "Suggested Fix," and logged our
disposition of each item in a new Column I, "Atlantic TC 30
June." It's our plan to discuss each item in the Pacific TC
call 1 July and record the opinion of the people assembled for
that call in a column to be headed "Pacific TC 1 July." If the
two groups agree on a particular item, then we can move that
item from the current list and into a list of resolved issues.
After the meeting, AH posted her revised list to
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200406/msg00133.html
"Agree" in Column I means that the participants on the Atlantic
call agreed with the suggested fix. "Comment ID" in Column A
refers to the organization of these comments in AH's file
system. Please use these labels (not the spreadsheet line
numbers) in comments. It is our hope that we can use this
approach to quickly resolve the less difficult issues and then
figure out what to do with the rest. See note below regarding
next week's meeting.
JB: Will take a look at issues list following Pacific call and
see if he can make a first cut at distinguishing between 1.0
issues and 1.1 issues so that MD et al. can focus on 1.0 work.
The idea is to rely on pushback in email to identify the
categorizations that need discussion.
{UBL10:11} IP notice
JB: Send notice to TC
Still pending.
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WORK LIST ADDITIONS
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No new items this week.
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OTHER BUSINESS
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The Atlantic TC call 7 July will be lacking JB, AH, EG (all on
summer break), MD (hosting an ad hoc TBG meeting in Berlin on
CCTS clarification), and SP (participating in that meeting).
So we can't really make progress on the issues list (except for
further comments in email, of course) till 14 July. The
question is, does in make sense for the other Atlantic
participants to discuss other work items? An obvious candidate
for discussion would be the NDR draft originally promised for
28 June. We need to decide this in email.
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