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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 18|19 June 2007
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
TUESDAY 19 JUNE 2007
ATTENDANCE
Jon Bosak (chair)
G. Ken Holman
Andy Schoka
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar:
http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm
AS: TBG3 is 2-6 July, not 9-13; will attend.
GKH: 8-11 December SC34 in Kyoto; will attend.
Liaison reports
None.
Subcommittee report: PSC
TM not present.
Subcommittee report: TSC
AS: TSC met briefly this morning and reviewed TM's work with
Kama and Flemming; created a list of comments that Kama will
document and forward in the TSC minutes.
Review of Atlantic call
No comments.
Support page submissions
None this week.
CONFIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS
From Stephen Green:
In a matter reminiscent of the 'uncertainty principle', is
there a way to make a submission of a requirement without
necessarily making public the details of the background to
the requirement? In a 'hypothetical' use case which is valid
but not well known. It might be that there is,
hypothetically, a desire to keep details of the use of a
document from being public. Is the very nature of UBL as an
open standard such that this cannot be done as an official
submission of a requirement without making the details
public? Hypothetically of course :-)
AGREED (following review of input from Tony Coates) that we
should not accept requirements lacking public justification.
JB: Note (though it doesn't apply directly here) that the OASIS
IPR policy explicitly prohibits confidential work items.
UBL TC MEETING IN STOCKHOLM 24-28 SEPTEMBER 2007
GKH: Will attend.
ACTION: TM to check whether there are national body obligations
and possibly a requirement to clear attendance at the UN/CEFACT
Forum meeting with heads of delegation.
ACTION: JB to begin building an agenda for the (relatively
brief) UBL TC plenary time in Stockholm, starting with the
issue of calculation models (GKH to explain this at the
meeting).
ACTION ITEMS FROM MANHATTAN
ACTION: JB to check with Chin Chee-Kai regarding availability
of a UBL 2.0 version of UBLish.
Done; Chee-Kai reports that he's beginning work on this.
ACTION: GKH to write up the "Candidate Decision Regarding Code
List Support" as amended 10 May 2007 (see minutes referenced
above).
GKH: Will do, but delayed this week.
ACTION: PSC and TSC to provide feedback on UBL 2.0 SBS 2.0:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23873
No news from PSC.
ACTION: AS to bring this up in the next TSC meeting.
ACTION: PSC and TSC to summarize business rules that are (1)
wanted in UBL but not allowed by [i.e., capable of being
addressed by] the NDR (e.g., requirement to include one of
PartyName and PartyIdentifier but not both) and (2) data items
whose constraints are inherited from another standard (e.g.,
lengths of data items specified by UNTDED); the rules so
identified to become candidates for a list of schematron
assertions "recommended to be included" (final characterization
TBD).
No news from PSC.
It was observed that this is an openended task.
ACTION: AS to bring this up in the next TSC meeting.
ACTION: JB to minute the one nonsubstantive spreadsheet error
found so far (the entry for BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA in
CountryIdentificationCode-2.0.gc is broken) and send a message
to this effect to ubl-dev.
GKH: The BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA item is a code list error,
not a spreadsheet error.
AS: The Locode file is missing a subdivision column,
resulting in (for example) multiple locations named
"Columbus" with no way to disambiguate them.
Summary of the tasks to be done under this heading:
- BOSNIA error: Note publicly and also include in code list
revision.
- Waybill spreadsheet: cell A4 has the UBLName "false";
this should be the word "CustomizationID". Disposition:
probably a candidate for "approved erratum"
(nonsubstantive, because this is done correctly in the
schema).
- Code lists to update in the code list revision: Locode,
rec20 (Units of Measure), rec24 (Transport Status).
ACTION: MG to investigate the impact of GKH's proposed
namespace-based versioning mechanism on the NDR. AGREED that
if no critical problems are found in this investigation, we
will adopt GKH's proposal for namespace-based versioning, as
contained in
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=23654
Continuing to track this.
OTHER BUSINESS
GKH: This week's agenda illustrates a right and a wrong way to
reference items in the repository. Example of wrong way:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23873
This is wrong because it points directly to a specific draft,
which may in the future be obsolete. Example of right way:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=23654
This is to be preferred because it points to the metadata page,
thus making clear the revision history and providing a link to
the latest version.
Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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