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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 6 December 2011
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING TUESDAY 6 DECEMBER 2011 ATTENDANCE Jon Bosak (chair) G. Ken Holman STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events None. Review of Atlantic call minutes No comments. BUSINESS DOCUMENT ENVELOPE TASK GROUP No news this week. UBL 2.1 PRD3 PSC DELIVERABLES No news this week. UBL 2.1 PRD3 TSC DELIVERABLES No news this week. SPREADSHEET ISSUES FOR CONTENT SCs See preceding Atlantic call minutes. GKH: Also note post on use of Oxford English: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201111/msg00019.html ASBIE DEFINITIONS Recent work documenting the role of ASBIEs in the UBL data model has again raised the issue of ASBIE definitions. See below for a list of current ASBIE definitions from the Common Library. There are also ABIE definitions needing work, for example: The Average price included VAT. This clas are suplementary utility Statements, that depending of type of Utility and scenario, needs to be present on a UtilityStatement, in order to meet the legal requirement and/or to give the Buyer proper informations. Note that these suplementary Statements are related to one common ConsumptionPoint as specified in UtilityChargeableConsumption/ConsumptionPoint above. JB: The list of ASBIE definitions (see agenda for this call) shows two completely different kinds of "definitions" randomly intermixed. For example, "An association to Payment Means" is followed by "The time where an appeal can be presented." The latter is an actual definition, whereas the former simply repeats information found in the Associated Object Class column of the model and is definitionally vacuous. GKH: And it is not sufficient to simply refer to the definition of the ABIE from which the ASBIE is derived. Consider, as a simple example, these two ASBIEs in PaymentMeans: cac:PaymentMeans/cac:PayeeFinancialAccount is an ASBIE of the cac:FinancialAccount ABIE cac:PaymentMeans/cac:PayerFinancialAccount is another ASBIE of the same cac:FinancialAccount ABIE If we were simply to define both to be "An instance of the Financial Account ABIE", that would tell the user nothing at all. They already know that from the spreadsheet or from the schema. And the definition of FinancialAccount as "Information about a Financial Account" says nothing about the difference between a PayeeFinancialAccount and a PayerFinancialAccount. In this particular case their functions are suggested by their names, but that is not a solution to the general problem. AGREED that the definitions are not yet of a quality sufficient for release of PRD3. NEXT STEPS: Discuss in the Atlantic call. UBL 2.1 PRD3 HUBDOC JB: Have been working with GKH on an explanation of ASBIES. Temporarily on hold until we resolve the definition issue, but perhaps we can ignore this by referring only to the Associated Object Class. PRD2 COMMENT DISPOSITION See preceding Atlantic call minutes. TC CONCALL SCHEDULE Week of 2011.12.12 Regular schedule Week of 2011.12.19 Regular schedule Week of 2011.12.26 *** CANCELED *** Week of 2012.01.02 Regular schedule Note that GKH will be on vacation from early February to late March 2012. Jon Bosak Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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