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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 03 August 2022 14:00UTC
Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 03 August 2022 14:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2022-08-03T14:00:00 Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe Participation
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener) Andrea Caccia Paul Donohoe Yves Jordan Natalie Muric Pacific call: Kenneth Bengtsson (convener) Erlend Klakegg Bergheim Kees Duvekot Ken Holman Levine Naidoo Regrets: Ole Madsen Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation: -
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3 -
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2 -
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015) The following would be used for a general (any version) citation: -
OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845) The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository: -
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/ The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository: -
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/ The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository: -
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at: -
http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370 The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at: -
http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ Publishing tools
Peter has offered to help with spreadsheet maintenance. Kees and Cecile have offered to help with editorship and maintenance. Previous repositories have been replaced with a single repository where both artefacts and the hub documents are maintained simultaneously for the production of a complete distribution package and an archive package: -
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/ubl/tree/review#readme Those who have volunteered to help with editing and maintenance, please test the above and provide feedback. Please report any issues regarding problems with the data. Ken has prepared a Github branch for working with UBL 2.4, available here: ubl-2.4-csd01wd01. Subcommittees are welcome to begin their own branches from this branch. Google spreadsheets are also available for subcommittees to copy. Please
contact Ken with any questions. Standing items
Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events
None Wikipedia page
Updates and maintenance of:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202208/msg00001.html Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202207/msg00008.html Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership New member orientation information: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 Voting status is determined by the following: -
existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status -
non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status -
members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical): -
Kenneth Bengtsson
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Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT -
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8 -
Andrea Caccia
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Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT, Chair OASIS Code List Representation TC -
Paul Donohoe -
Kees Duvekot
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatieplatform e-factureren -
Cecile Guasch
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Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit) -
G. Ken Holman
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Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC -
Ole Madsen
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DK Member CEN/TC440 -
Natalie Muric -
Levine Naidoo
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Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML Members gaining voting status after this meeting: -
Yves Jordan TC Vitality Check
The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2023. Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025. UBL 2.4
Gathering of requirements
ICT Standardization supporting Circular Economy in the European Union, investigate if there are gaps between UBL and ongoing efforts: -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202101/msg00023.html -
https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/44089?locale=en -
https://www.gs1.eu/news/a-standards-based-knowledge-system-for-the-circular-economy Are there similar initiatives in other regions? -
Luxembourg has initiated an initiative with ISO TC 323 to develop a “product circularity data sheet”:
https://pcds.lu, which seems to be aligned with circular economy requirements for UBL. ISO TC 323 focuses on a syntax-neutral data model.
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Agreed that Organisation Master Data SC will lead this work. -
Swedish initiative: CEILS - Circular Economy Information Logistics System JIRA tickets
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Adding DueDate in Reminder:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-196 -
Need for two extra document types for information diffusion:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-232 -
Cardinality of CallForTendersDocumentReference in CatalogueLine and TenderLine:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-300 -
New document Business Registration Information Notification:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-326 -
Document best practice for time zone qualifier in UBL 2.4 and in XML samples:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-327 -
Review Remittance Advice document:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-324 -
Review prose specification:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-328
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Peter will try to connect to Adriana from the CPFR project to ask for an updated link.
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Perhaps this repository contains what we need:
https://www.gs1us.org/education-training/resource-library#/score/DESC/1/cpfr--/ -
Typos in sample XML instance:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-329 -
Include an XML Catalogue v. 1.1, deferred from earlier:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-183.
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Kees and Erlend have done some work and can demonstrate how it would work when/if included in a UBL distribution -
Include Schematrons in distribution:
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https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-330
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https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-337
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https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-338 -
Add a new document Business Register Information Notification to the Business Directory and agreement process:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-331 -
Rearrange prose specification using new OASIS 2020 format:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-332 -
Product Carbon Footprint:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-336 -
Change from RFC to ISO normative language:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-341 -
Item Location Quantity must consider price variation per delivery period:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-340 -
Qualification Application Response Schema wrong definition:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-342 -
Missing information in Waybill:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-343 -
GoodsItem is Missing Additional Document Reference:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-344 -
Add Required Special Transport Equipment to Transport Event:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-345 -
Add Responsible Party to Transport Event:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-346 -
Support for bounded warehouse:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-347 There is ongoing work in CEN regarding the simplified invoice and/or consumer receipt:
https://standards.cencenelec.eu/dyn/www/f?p=CEN:110:0::::FSP_PROJECT,FSP_ORG_ID:73128,1883209&cs=1C7A4FA8A780644DDAB4E4D63AFC5A9E7. Important to work on establishing liaison to be able to share more information. -
Ole will confer with the eReceipt group to see if they will submit requirements to the UBL group. Discussion item from Cecile: -
Generalize the datetime type to be able to convey other representations such as Hebrew Any new requirements for UBL 2.4? Preparation of ISO submission
ISO requirements being discussed here
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 and here
https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html Need to change the prose specification to use ISO language. Kenneth will intend to create a Word version of the current specification to be used as a track-changes tool for TC discussion purposes. Harm Jan will follow up with Jamie to see if RFC normative language can be submitted to ISO. UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
Nothing UBL Post-award
From
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-182 (TaxInclusiveLineExtensionAmount ticket): should we add tax inclusive amounts to other ABIEs, such as TaxSubtotal, TaxTotal, AllowanceCharge, etc.? See also
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-217 and
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-218. Kees will open a new ticket to track this. UBL Pre-award
Denmark is working on new requirements for adding TCO calculations to UBL 2.4. Ole will create a JIRA ticket when work is more progressed. UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
Work in progress for UBL 2.4: -
New requirements for a Letter of Credit coming for UBL 2.4. Peter and Kenneth to work together on this.
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Peter and Kenneth will schedule time for this later this year -
Possibly new requirements for documenting customs bonds in UBL instances. -
New requirements from mapping to UN/CEFACT eCMR, from CEN TC 440, and possibly new requirements for the eFreight mapping. Peter will open JIRA tickets. -
New requirements from Peppol Logistics -
New requirements for calculating environmental footprints in transportation documents -
Customs alignment with WCO requirements Next TSC call will be after the summer vacations period (August). Organisation Master Data Subcommittee
As established earlier, there is a mutual interest in establishing formal liaisons between ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the UBL TC to work together on the PCDS. Next TC 323 meeting is September 26, why we need to send our letter of interest to
the TC before then. Who can serve as liaison officer? Cecile will survey options for joining ISO. TC Liaisons
CEN TC 434
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC. CEN informs that a liaison cannot be established at TC level. OASIS is contacting CEN to set up a TC liaison. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1
Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html This year’s SC 32 meeting was held in June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Harm Jan will follow up with Jamie to see what the status is. GitHub instance for UBL 2.4 work
Work on UBL 2.4 will be done in the existing “ubl” GitHub instance. Members interested in working on branches, please send Ken your GitHub account name and associated email address. At least every subcommittee chair should be a maintainer. Subcommittee conference calls
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Organisational Master Data SC will be meeting biweekly on Wednesdays at 15:00 CET. -
Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting occasionally on Wednesdays at 15:00 CET. -
Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis Face-to-face
Face-to-face meeting 2022? Candidate hosts: -
Invitation to meet in Oslo -
Back-to-back with Exchange Summit Europe 2022 (Lisbon) Should we have a face-to-face meeting in the fall of 2022, for example before or after the Exchange Summit Europe conference in Lisbon? TC conference call schedule
Call schedule
2022-08-02/2022-08-03
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe 2022-08-16/2022-08-17
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe 2022-08-30/2022-08-31
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe TC calendar
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes. Other business
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