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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 18 October 2023 14:00UTC


Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 18 October 2023 14:00UTC

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2023-10-18T14:00:00

Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

Participation

 

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Andrea Caccia

Kees Duvekot

Natalie Muric

 

Pacific call:

 

Todd Albers

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

Sander Fieten

Ken Holman

Levine Naidoo

 

Regrets:

 

Peter Borresen

Wim Kok

Ole Madsen

 

Referencing the specification

 

One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

-  OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/

The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

-  http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

-  http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

 

Standing items

 

Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

Nothing

 

Wikipedia page

Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language

 

Review of Pacific call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202310/msg00007.html

 

Review of Atlantic call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202310/msg00005.html

 

Membership status review

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

 

New member orientation information:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

 

Voting status is determined by the following:

-  existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

-  non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

-  members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

 

Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

 

-  Todd Albers

o Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups

-  Kenneth Bengtsson

o  Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

-  Peter Borresen

o DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7

-  Andrea Caccia

-  Paul Donohoe

-  Kees Duvekot

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie­platform e-factureren

-  Sander Fieten

o Cochair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC, Cochair OASIS BDXR TC

-  Cecile Guasch

o Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)

-  Ken Holman

o Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC

-  Yves Jordan

-  Wim Kok

-  Ole Madsen

o DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32

-  Levine Naidoo

o Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML

 

Members gaining voting status after this meeting:

-  Natalie Muric

 

Members losing voting status after this meeting:

-  Cecile Guasch

 

TC Vitality Check

The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.

Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.

 

UBL 2.4

 

A ballot to approve UBL 2.4 as a Committee Specification closed October 17 and was approved with 10 out of 12 committee members voting in favor. 2 voting members did not vote.

 

UBL 2.5

 

Deprecation Policy

 

A strawman proposal is being discussed here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LdBt_U9Tsje2BJDjaKojTgu8thMmbx7FMf_EAjU26Eo

 

Work group participants: Erlend, Kees, Kenneth, Levine, Sander, Todd, and Wim.

 

Semantic library review

 

Review the UBL semantic library to identify document types and BIEs that can be deprecated as well as definitions that can be improved, either to fix errors, because they are redundant or no longer needed, or to enhance interoperability between implementations.

 

Workgroup participants: Entire TC (agreed to distribute the workload between subcommittees).

 

Update UBL publishing tools

 

Implement deprecation support in the UBL tools and publishing environment.

 

Ken will update https://github.com/oasis-tcs/ubl-codelists with the latest version of his tooling.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kees.

 

Update specification

 

Divide specification into multiple parts. Aim is to create a multipart specification.

 

Kenneth will identify the normative parts of the prose specification and create a first draft.

 

Workgroup participants: Kees, Kenneth, Levine, and Paul.

 

JSON syntax binding

 

Develop specification for a UBL JSON syntax binding.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kenneth.

 

Subcommittee reports

 

UBL Post-award

 

None

 

UBL Pre-award

 

None

 

UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

 

The TSC subcommittee has identified new elements that are required by Peppol Logistics and other implementers. Agreed that the TSC can start working these elements into preliminary data models for UBL 2.5.

 

Kenneth has created new experimental spreadsheets as well as Github branch for the TSC to work in.

 

Peter will call for a TSC meeting to start working on the data models.

 

Organisation Master Data Subcommittee

 

None

 

TC Liaisons

 

CEN TCs 434 and 440

 

Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.

 

OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.

 

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1

 

Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html

 

Last year’s SC 32 meeting was held on June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Jamie will follow up with SC 32.

 

ISO TC 323 (WG5)

 

Cecile is available to serve as liaison officer between ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the UBL TC for facilitating work on the PCDS, under the condition that there is no requirement to join ISO through a national SDO.

 

The TC has agreed to appoint Cecile Guasch as liaison officer to ISO TC 323, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202302/msg00000.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.

 

Subcommittee conference calls

 

-  Subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.

 

TC conference call schedule

 

Face-to-face meeting

 

Time and venue for next face-to-face meeting?

-  April or May 2024. Options:

o Todd will look into Minneapolis.

o Back-to-back with Exchange Summit Americas in Miami?

o The Hague?

o Budapest?

o Copenhagen?

o Brussels?

 

Call schedule

 

2023-10-24/2023-10-25

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-10-31/2023-11-01

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/22:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 10:00MSP/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-11-08/2023-11-09

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-11-14/2023-11-15

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-11-21/2023-11-22

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-11-28/2023-11-29

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-12-05/2023-12-06

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-12-12/2023-12-13

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-12-19/2023-12-20

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2023-12-26/2023-12-27

-   Canceled

 

TC calendar

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

 

iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50

 

Other business

 

None

 



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