Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 9 January 2024 21:00UTC

[Kenneth Bengtsson <kbengtsson@efact.pe>]

Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 9 January 2024 21:00UTC

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2024-01-09T21:00:00

Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

 

Participation

 

Todd Albers

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

Kees Duvekot

Ken Holman

Levine Naidoo

 

Referencing the specification

 

One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.4

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

-  OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

The canonical 2.4 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/

The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/

The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

-  http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

-  http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

 

Standing items

 

Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

None

 

Wikipedia page

Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language

 

Review of Pacific call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202312/msg00011.html

 

Review of Atlantic call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202312/msg00013.html

 

Membership status review

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

 

New member orientation information:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

 

Voting status is determined by the following:

-  existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

-  non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

-  members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

 

Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

 

-  Todd Albers

o Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups

-  Kenneth Bengtsson

o  Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

-  Peter Borresen

o DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7

-  Andrea Caccia

-  Paul Donohoe

-  Kees Duvekot

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie­platform e-factureren

-  Sander Fieten

o Cochair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC, Cochair OASIS BDXR TC

-  Ken Holman

o Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC

-  Yves Jordan

-  Levine Naidoo

o Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML

 

TC Vitality Check

The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.

Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.

 

UBL 2.4

 

Statement of use received from Semantic: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202312/msg00007.html

 

UBL 2.5

 

Deprecation Policy

 

The TC has approved a UBL Deprecation Policy version 1.0 available here:

-  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71497&wg_abbrev=ubl (PDF)

-  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71496&wg_abbrev=ubl (ODT)

 

Update UBL publishing tools

 

Implement deprecation support in the UBL tools and publishing environment.

 

Erlend has presented a strawman proposal for a YAML-format for documenting 2.5 work: https://github.com/klakegg/oasis-ubl-model. Agreed that the functionality added by a structured format adds value, not least when adding the complexity of deprecated components. A “front end” layer will be needed for business users to maintain the files.

 

While working on the above, we need a spreadsheet model to start documenting 2.5 work. A strawman spreadsheet with additional columns for documenting deprecation has been created and can be reviewed here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18o1YqjHWUw0-s8mb3ja4i99obOUhs-4zpgso6RZrGaY/edit#gid=2070038308

In the strawman proposal, four new columns have been added to the existing UBL library spreadsheet to document decisions to deprecate components:

-  “Endorsed cardinality” (column “D”):

o Used when signaling a cardinality change that would, if implemented in the schemas, cause backwards incompatibility (for example, moving from 0..1 to 1..1 or from 0..n to 0..1). The 2.5 schemas will maintain the old cardinality (column “C”) and users will be alerted that a new cardinality is planned for a future version, and endorsed to maintain compatibility with the cardinality in column “D”.

o Also used when deprecating an entire BIE. Column “D” shall then have a cardinality of “0”, indicating that the BIE will be removed in a future release.

-  “Endorsed cardinality rationale” (column “E”):

o When an entire BIE is deprecated, this column shall contain information useful for users migrating to alternative functionality, for example reasons for deprecating the BIE, indicating an alternative BIE, etc.

-  “Deprecated definition” (column “G”):

o When updating a BIE definition, this column shall contain the previous definition. To be precise, the old definition shall be copied from column “F” to column “G” to preserve it, and the new definition shall then be written column “F”.

-  “Last changed” (column “Y”):

o To document when a component has been changed from one UBL version to another. Ken will work on a script to populate the column with pre-2.5 changes.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kees.

 

Semantic library review

 

Review the UBL semantic library to identify document types and BIEs that can be deprecated as well as definitions that can be improved, either to fix errors, because they are redundant or no longer needed, or to enhance interoperability between implementations.

 

Agreed to review supplementary components at our next face-to-face meeting, i.e., the XML attributes listed here: https://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/UBL-2.4.html#T-UBL-UNQUALIFIED-DATA-TYPES

 

Workgroup participants: Entire TC. Responsibilities see: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f0yyWMLK9wAWEjEKgsoXT7eov9h5bx6qxROBZP_qu7M

 

Update specification

 

Divide specification into multiple parts. Aim is to create a multipart specification.

 

Kenneth will identify the normative parts of the prose specification and create a first draft.

 

Workgroup participants: Kees, Kenneth, Levine, and Paul.

 

JSON syntax binding

 

Develop specification for a UBL JSON syntax binding.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kenneth.

 

Subcommittee reports

 

UBL Post-award

 

Nothing

 

UBL Pre-award

 

Nothing

 

UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

 

Launch of public feedback period for first eFTI draft implementing act, see: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/202310/msg00000.html. The requirement model has been published. The TSC will convene to discuss how to reply.

 

Organisation Master Data Subcommittee

 

Nothing

 

TC Liaisons

 

CEN TCs 434 and 440

 

Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.

 

OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.

 

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1

 

Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html

 

Last year’s SC 32 meeting was held on June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Jamie will follow up with SC 32.

 

ISO TC 323 (WG5)

 

Cecile is available to serve as liaison officer between ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the UBL TC for facilitating work on the PCDS, under the condition that there is no requirement to join ISO through a national SDO.

 

The TC has agreed to appoint Cecile Guasch as liaison officer to ISO TC 323, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202302/msg00000.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.

 

Subcommittee conference calls

 

-  Subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.

 

TC conference call schedule

 

Face-to-face meeting

 

Time and venue for next face-to-face meeting?

 

Spring meeting:

 

-  Budapest

o Possibility to be hosted by the MSZT (Hungarian standardization body)

-  May 27-30, 2024

o Craft Conference will be held the same week, May 30-31 (https://craft-conf.com/2024)

o XML Prague is the following week, June 6-8 (https://www.xmlprague.cz)

 

Fall meeting:

 

-  Invitation from Logius to meet in The Hague

-  Dates? For example, back-to-back with Declarative Amsterdam (November 7-8, 2024)?

 

Call schedule

 

2024-01-09/2024-01-10

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-01-16/2024-01-17

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-01-24/2024-01-25

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

TC calendar

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

 

iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50

 

Other business

 

None