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Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] RE: Representing Hierarchical Value Sets (for example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types)
In my project of grade I am making crawl from UDDI and in the current state I observe that very little people are following the UDDI recommendations for example the best practice for wsdl http://www.uddi.org/pubs/wsdlbestpractices-V1.05-Open-20010625.pdf In this doc says that every tmodel that uses a WSDL as its overview doc must use a keyed reference Example: <keyedReference tModelKey="uuid:C1ACF26D-9672-4404-9D70-39B756E62AB4" keyName="uddi-org:types" keyValue="wsdlSpec"/> </categoryBag> But the only way that I found to know when a tmodel reffers a WSDL doc was mading a parse of the overviewdoc searching the word wsdl. In other businessServices the tmodel are empty and the WSDL is in the Accespoint of the BusinessService (I believe that is not correct the Accesspoint must be the address when the Web Service attends the requests) I am trying to crawl UDDI searching the WSDLs and later download the WSDL to index his content to offers trhought a search engine but I am starting to think that will be impractical because the information in UDDI is not enouht clean For example Some statistics about the official UDDI registry based in my crawl Near of 13.000 BusinessEntity Only 5096 have BusinessEntity And from this 5096 are many without a WSDL document this means that not are Web Services or not was well registered. What think you? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Bellwood [mailto:bellwood@us.ibm.com] Sent: Martes, 18 de Marzo de 2003 04:43 p.m. To: Pranav Parekh Cc: Wai-Kwong Sam LEE; uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [uddi-dev] RE: Representing Hierarchical Value Sets (for example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types) Pranav, You are correct. There is currently no spec. defined mechanism for defining the structure of a value set, nor are there any APIs defined for saving and querying the content of a value set. Maintaining this data has been deemed beyond the scope of the UDDI registry up through the V3 specification, defering to the referential nature of UDDI. The topic you raise has, however, been the topic of discussion for sometime now in the UDDI TC. Work in this area will be considered as a candidate item in V4. Thanks, Tom Bellwood Phone: (512) 838-9957 (external); TL: 678/9957 (internal) Co-Chair, OASIS UDDI Specification TC "Pranav Parekh" <pparekh@digev.com> on 03/18/2003 02:58:59 PM To: "Wai-Kwong Sam LEE" <Sam.Lee@oracle.com> cc: <uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [uddi-dev] RE: Representing Hierarchical Value Sets (for example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types) Thanks for the response Sam. Some follow-up comments and questions.. In my original question, when I mentioned that I was unable to find any details in the spec. as to how the hierarchical value set is represented.. I meant to say I was unable to find the XML representation of the hierarchical value set. Also, since there are no APIs for users of the registry to retrieve the hierarchical value set (that a category scheme or identifier scheme is bound to have), any vendor who thinks it is important or necessary to expose this functionality for end users will have a custom implementation. In light of that, is there a preferred approach that the UDDI committee has recommended which might become part of a future specification? Thanks, - Pranav -----Original Message----- From: Wai-Kwong Sam LEE [mailto:Sam.Lee@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:37 PM To: Pranav Parekh Cc: uddi-dev@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: Representing Hierarchical Value Sets (for example for uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types) The complete hierarchy of the value set uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types tModel is detailed in the spec section 11.1.1.4: http://uddi.org/pubs/uddi_v3.htm#UDDITypes There is no API for users of the registry to retrieve this value set. In general, in UDDIv3, there are APIs (such as the get_allValidValues you mentioned) to allow a *registry* (rather than the users of the registry) to retrieve valid values of a value set from a value set provider. The API set was created to allow a registry implementation to cache the valid values for spell-check type of validation, rather than for end users to retrieve the values and the structure (such as hierarchy) of a value set. - sam Pranav Parekh wrote: > Folks, > > For UDDI Version 3, the UDDI specs. provides the hierarchical value set > for the uddi:uddi.org:categorization:types TModel. However, I was > unable to find any details in the spec. as to how this value set itself > is represented. Additionally, I was unable to find any APIs relevant to > the retrieval or management of this hierarchical value set (or any other > hierarchical value set for some other categorization scheme). The only > API relevant to value sets is the get_allValidValues but using that API > how would information regarding a hierarchical value set be retrieved? > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated. > > Best Regards, > - Pranav J. Parekh >
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