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Roll Call

Voting Members:

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Alejandro Abdelnur Sun yes

Sasha Aickin Plumtree no

Subbu Allamaraju BEA yes

Olin Atkinson Novell yes

Atul Batra Sun yes

Amir Blich SAP yes

Chris Braun Novell no

Rex Brooks Starbourne yes

T.J. Cox Novell no

William Cox BEA yes

Brian Dirking Stellent no

Michael Freedman Oracle yes

Ross Fubini Plumtree yes

Richard Jacob IBM yes

Jon Klein Reed-Elsevier yes

Andre Kramer Citrix yes

Alan Kropp Vignette Corporation yes

Carsten Leue IBM yes

Dan Machak Tibco yes

Madoka Mitsuoka Fujitsu yes

Petr Palas Moravia IT yes

Raj Ramesh CommerceOne no

Sunit Randhawa Fujitsu yes

Thomas Schaeck IBM yes

Gennady Shumaker SAP yes

Yossi Tamari SAP Portals yes

Gil Tayar WebCollage no

Rich Thompson IBM yes

Charles Wiecha IBM yes

Total voting members: 29

Voting members in attendance: 23 (79%)

A quorum was present.

Members on Leave Of Absence

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Nigel Ratcliffe Factiva LOA

Joe Rudnicki U.S. Navy LOA

Steven Smith Capitol College LOA

Eric van Lydegraf Kinzan LOA

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The minutes from 3/20/03 were accepted

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Schedule for finishing the spec (Thomas):

March 26 Deadline for submitting Change Requests

March 27 and April 3 calls to process these Change requests.

Email vote to commence April 10 and end April 16

The March 26 date is a hard cutoff date, and the other

dates are targets.

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Summary of Change Requests

237b- Alternative for supporting a control set style DEFERRED(1.1)

240 - Remove Interface.UnsupportedLocale fault PARTIALLY ACCEPTED*

242 - Logic of 127 chars recommendation unclear. ACCEPTED

243 - extensions field description ACCEPTED

244 - Back door to declaring charsets for MarkupTypes ACCEPTED

245 - UserScope and caching WITHDRAWN

246 - userProfileItemDescriptions rename ACCEPTED

247 - Rename binding wsdl file ACCEPTED

248 - Section CSS classes ACCEPTED

249 - Class name length impact on performance DEFERRED

250 - Only 1 performBlockingInteraction()

per End-User interaction? ACCEPTED

* See details below

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#237(b): Alternative for supporting a control set style

=> Discussion of how the Consumer can inform the Portlet of the

controls "normally" in use for the mode/window state.

The question here was to allow the Consumer to pass an ordered

list of controls to the Producer and to specify the layout of

those controls in the generated markup.

There was a general feeling that we should spend more time

considering this functionality in the next version of the spec.

There was to be two separate votes: one to decide whether

the Consumer specifies the order of controls, and if that

passes, on whether the Consumer can specify a layout of those

controls within the markup.

Vote results on Consumer specifying the order of controls:

yes: 3

no: 16

abstain: 4

Alejandro Abdelnur Sun no

Subbu Allamaraju BEA no

Olin Atkinson Novell no

Atul Batra Sun no

Amir Blich SAP no

Rex Brooks Starbourne yes

William Cox BEA no

Michael Freedman Oracle yes

Ross Fubini Plumtree no

Richard Jacob IBM no

Jon Klein Reed-Elsevier abstain

Andre Kramer Citrix no

Alan Kropp Vignette Corporation yes

Carsten Leue IBM no

Dan Machak Tibco no

Madoka Mitsuoka Fujitsu no

Petr Palas Moravia IT no

Sunit Randhawa Fujitsu abstain

Thomas Schaeck IBM no

Gennady Shumaker SAP no

Yossi Tamari SAP Portals no

Rich Thompson IBM abstain

Charles Wiecha IBM abstain

There was no need to vote on the layout question.

Resolution: Deferred to 1.1

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The decision on 237 (a) was re-opened. There is a concern that

the Consumer would have to define a stylesheet for each locale

in order to address locale-specific labels.

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#240: Remove Interface.UnsupportedLocale fault

=> Discussion has come down to either we should:

1. tighten up the semantics around locales (Consumer MUST

select from the set declared as supported through the

PortletDescription, etc.) ... this would keep the fault

definition.

2. Leave locales as a prioritized request and allow the

Portlet to return any locale ... this would remove the

fault definition.

Resolution: Accepted in modifed form: go with option 2, but keep

the fault as a Specialization of OperationFailed in

order to allow a portlet to support the tight semantics.

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#242: Logic of 127 chars recommendation unclear.

=> Suggestion looks to add clarity as to why the first

127 characters are recommended.

Resolution: Accepted.

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#243: extensions field description

=> Request breaks the one sentence description of the extensions

field into 2 in order to clearly state that extensions elements

MUST come from a non-wsrp namespace.

Resolution: Accepted.

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#244: Back door to declaring charsets for MarkupTypes

=> Should the spec comment on the mime type can include

optional declarations such as charset?

Resolution: Accepted. Spec will comment that the mime type should

not be used in this way.

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#245: UserScope and caching

=> Is a Consumer prohibited or discouraged from caching content

when it does not understand the specified userScope?

Resolution: Withdrawn

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#246: userProfileItemDescriptions rename

=> Consistency says this field should be

customUserProfileItemsDescriptions

Resolution: Accepted.

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#247: Rename binding wsdl file

=> Noting that for consistency, this filename should use

the plural "bindings".

Resolution: Accepted.

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#248: Section CSS classes

=> Question raised whether to define a parallel set of

classes that are table specific?

Resolution: Accepted

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#249: Class name length impact on performance

=> Request by the "performance police" that the class

names be shortened.

Resolution: Deferred. Consider other names over the next week.

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#250: Only 1 performBlockingInteraction() per End-User interaction?

=> What is the harm as long as the blocking semantics are

followed? Also, this conflicts with the required semantics

of receiving back an InvalidSession or InvalidCookie

fault message.

Resolution: Accepted: Redo the sentence so that a portlet will

only recieve one performBlockingInteraction() per

request. Clarify language about allowing for retries.

Semantics of performBlockingInteraction() are similar

to synchronized methods.

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Revisit Tie Vote on CR 142?

There will be an email vote on this issue. Thomas will set this up.

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Next Meeting:

Thursday April 3

8:00 am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00 pm CET

duration: 2 hours

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Meeting officially adjournded at 10:09 AM PST