Meeting started at 8:00  PDT

 

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Roll Call

Voting Members:

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Alejandro Abdelnur     Sun                      yes

Sasha Aickin           Plumtree                 no

Subbu Allamaraju       BEA                      yes

Olin Atkinson          Novell                   no

Atul Batra             Sun                      yes

Amir Blich             SAP                      yes

Chris Braun            Novell                   yes

Rex Brooks             Starbourne               yes

T.J. Cox               Novell                   yes

William Cox            BEA                      yes

Winston Damarillo      GlueCode Software        no

Brian Dirking          Stellent                 yes

Michael Freedman       Oracle                   yes

Ross Fubini            Plumtree                 yes

Noah Guyot             Vignette                 yes

David Holladay         Microsoft                no

Richard Jacob          IBM                      yes

Dimitri Jirov          SAP                      yes

Jon Klein              Reed-Elsevier            yes

Andre Kramer           Citrix                   yes

Alan Kropp             Vignette                 yes

Carsten Leue           IBM                      yes

Dan Machak             Tibco                    no

David Raphael          Ericsson                no

Nigel Ratcliffe        Factiva                  no

Thomas Schaeck         IBM                      no

Steven Smith           Capitol College          yes

Yossi Tamari           SAP                      yes

Rich Thompson          IBM                      yes

Charles Wiecha         IBM                      yes

 

 

Total voting members:          30

Voting members in attendance:  22 (73%)

A quorum was present.

 

Members on Leave Of Absence

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Sunit Randhawa         Fujitsu                  LOA

Joe Rudnicki           U.S. Navy                LOA

Eric van Lydegraf      Kinzan                   LOA

 

 

Prospective Members (non-voting):

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Metin Ergener          Vignette                no         

 

Minutes from last 2 meetings accepted.

 

Interop:  Richard J.  problems with proxies, could be material for primer.  Also dynamic IP issues.

 

Conformance:  Walk through functional areas.

 

Markup:  Drop anchor class, add ‘tab’ class, refine menus.

 

WSDL:  Interop testing uncovered one JAX-RPC issue with the wsdl, when dealing with a .NET producer dropping response object, have workaround.

 

PFB:  1st meeting 7/15

Coordination:  1st meeting 7/9

 

Errata:

 

#21  Require namespace prefix field?  spec semantics already state that the namespace must be supplied with the templates.

Accepted

 

#22 Rich:  Don’t require consumer support the title, consumer can use it optionally.   Mike F:  The Producer can’t predict whether the new title will be used if there’s a cache.  “Safest” approach for portlet would be to invalidate the cache when just the title changes. Need guidance to the Producer..how does returning the title affect the cache?  Is it understood that these are not necessarily tightly coupled?  Rich:  Primer?  Mike F:  If it’s not clear what’s being implied in the spec.  Subbu:  Decoupling is more of an implementation choice.  Andre, et al:  agree it should be discussed in the primer.

Accepted

 

#23 SOAP 1.2 drops “.” delimiter in the fault name, in favor of QNames.  Bill C.  1.2 is now a W3C recommendation. 

Accepted

 

#24 Drop “Fault” suffix on element definition, leave it on the type definition.

Accepted

 

#25 Interop recommendation for handling faults across stacks.  Andre:  SOAP 1.2 also relaxes the requirement for single detail element.

Accepted

 

#26 InteractionParmas.portletState renamed to portletStateChange.

Accepted

 

#27 Token namespace prefix rewriting.  Steven:  Both forms are still supported, including the wsrp-urlType=namespace?  Rich:  Yes  Mike F:  Why are we keeping both?  Andre:  Possibly for large blocks to be rewritten, nice to have a terminator.  It’s primarily used for function names, so this isn’t a major point.

 

Resolved:  Add new constant, drop old form from spec.

 

#28 URL encoding valid for display mimeType

Accepted

 

#29 Whitespace in URL rewriting expressions disallowed?  Alej:  Needed? 

Rejected

 

#30 Accepted.

 

Andre emails:  Consumer indicates whether it proxies resources?  Interop tests have shown proxied images to be very slow.  Mike F:  Discuss in email.

 

Noted issue in testing with Oracle Consumer, will continue discussion in Interop teleconference.

 

Primer:  Would like a 4th volunteer, if possible.  Also, SC chairs should expect to be polled for their input.

 

Spec Submission:  Richard:  Email vote on the 15th?  Rich:  Hopes to have a clean version of the spec tomorrow, for review in time for the email vote.  Followed by discussion basically revisiting the reasons for going to submission on the 15th vs. waiting one month.  There will be a special telecon (27 June) and ballot asking the group to commit to the 15th as planned, or slip the schedule by one month.

 

Meeting ended at 10:11 PDT