OASIS Security Joint Committee (SJC)
Meeting Minutes

Logistics
Business In Order
Action Items & Motions
References


Logistics

Meeting Date 12/12/2002
Meeting Time Time: 12pm EST
Location

Dial-in Number: 888-742-8686
Conference ID: 5250215

Call host: Waveset Technologies
Duration 1 Hour
Chair Phil Griffin
Recording Secretary Darran Rolls
Agenda Agenda available in [1]

Business In Order

1 Roll Call    
(PG) Phil Griffin, Griffin Consulting OASIS XCBF TC Present
(KS) Krishna Sankar, CISCO OASIS TAB Regrets
(KB) Karl Best, OASIS OASIS Director of Operations Absent
(HL) Hal Lockhart, Entegrity OASIS XACML TC Present
(HR) Hari Reddy, ContentGuard OASIS RL TC Present
(MM) Monca Martin, Certivo OASIS XCBF TC Present
(DR) Darran Rolls, Waveset OASIS PS TC Present
(CA) Carlisle Adams, Entrust OASIS XACML TC Present
(CA) Robert Zuccherato, Entrust OASIS DSS TC Present
(PH) Phil Hallam-Baker, Verisign OASIS WSSL TC Present
(LP) Lisa Pretty OASIS PKI Forum Absent
(TL) Terry Leahy, Wells Fargo OASIS PKI TC Absent
(LP) John Messing OASIS LegalXML Absent
(JC) Jim Cabral, MTG Management Consultants OASIS LegalXML & Integrated Justice TC Present
(PW) Pete Wenzel, SeeBeyond OASIS ebXML CPP/A TC Present
(CZ) Chris Kaler, Microsoft OASIS WSS TC Regrets
(KL) Kelvin Lawrence, IBM OASIS WSS TC Regrets
(PM) Prateek Mishra, Netegrity OASIS SS TC Absent
(RP) Robert Philpott, RSA OASIS SS TC Absent

2 Introductions
None

3 Approve Agenda
  Approved. See new business

4 Approve minutes from 11/26/02 Committee Meeting
  Minutes approved.

5 WSRP Note from TAB
PG Perceived problem that the SJC has some juristriction over the WSRP TC process. Had verbal discussion with the TC. Is this something that the TAB's should explain on the chairs alias?
MM Listening on the WSRP call today, they discussed this issue. SAML and others have role discussions underway. Suggested this was an opportunity to open a discussion for collaberation between the TC's and the SJC can broker it.
PHB OK to make suggestions, but role definitions could be very core to their mission and they might not want to pass this to another group. Keen that we don't re-create "W3C style boards" with endless discussion on naming and architecture.
PG Agreed. Relates to the TAB discussion in agenda item 7. Perhaps this would be better passed to a new TC as suggested.
MM Propose that the SJC could do the underlying work and it be presented to the TAB as their deliverable.
DR I don't see how this is any different that what our charter states and we are currently proposing to execute on.
PG How about we just do the doc first submit it o the TAB and see what happens?
HL More generally, I am confused about what exactly coordination means. Trying to do the architectures and vocabulary is coordination. Why is this out of scope?
PHB Maybe we do the work here, detect problem and suggest solutions. For example, look at the TC's, pull out design themes and suggest they be formalized and processed by a new TC.
HL The new TC couldn't do the coordination so what would it do?
PHB The new TC would have an open membership so it would possibly have more "authority" or credibility.
PG Volunteers to create the draft vocabulary document for submission to the TAB (AI).
HL Surely taking existing material should be less contentious. Is such a document still a deliverable if it is built off existing works?
PG To make a statement for submission to WSRP group explaining the charter and authority of the SJC (AI)
MM To pass on these details to WSRP (AI)

6 Election of a new chair
PG We now have several new members. Does anyone have a burning desire to chair?
DR PG lost connection to the con-call. DR taking the chair...
DR Propose we suggest to PG that he stay on as chair for a second term.
PHB Idea of ration is good all round. But as most of the SJC time so far has been spent on setup, giving PG a second term would be reasonable.
DR To suggest this to PG (AI). PG to add an agenda item to the next meeting to officially vote on this (AI).

7 TAB update - Krishna/Karl
DR Krishna sent regrets. Karl absent - agenda item deferred. PG to add to next meetings agenda (AI). We should note that the changes outlined in KB's mail will require that the SJC change it's charter.

8 Update on XML Conference and Exposition 2002
DR DS not on the call. Agenda item deferred. PG to add to next meetings agenda (AI)

9 Update on coordinated SJC member F2F meetings
DR Action item for all from last meeting to recheck with our TC's for interest in attending a March common meeting. Any additional feedback?
HL XACML & SAML are not currently planning any further F2F meetings so unlikely.
PW ebXML CPP/A TC needs a January F2F so timing would not match up for us.
DR We need to review the original purpose for this proposed F2F. Personally I see great value in the chance to exchange details on progress and scope of fellow security specification to prevent overlap, promote reuse etc.
HL What would be the value of the F2F? Possible to do this via con-call. We could have a rotating 15 minute status/scope presentation on each meeting agenda?.
DR DR to seek clarification from PG/KB on the intended purpose of the meting and start discussion on HL's suggestion (AI).


10 New Business
DR Moved that the SJC consider moving the December 26th call. HL motioned we cancel the 26th meeting until January 9th 2003. Non opposed (M). Next SJC meeting scheduled for January 9th 2003. DR to check with con-call schedule and notify the list (AI)
HL Proposal to open the email list to any OASIS member. HL moved that if not already decided in previous meetings, the SJC open its main list to all OASIS members. Non opposed. (M)

11 Motion to adjourn
  Meeting adjourned at 12:44 EST to reconvene January 9th 2003 at 12 noon EST (M)

Action Items & Motions

  Owner Action Item
1 PG Volunteers to create the draft vocabulary document for submission to the TAB.
2 PG To make a statement for submission to WSRP group explaining the charter and authority of the SJC.
3 MM To pass on the details of 2 to WSRP list.
4 DR To suggest to PG he remain on for a second term.
5 PG To add an agenda item to the next meeting to officially vote his extended tenure.
6 PG Krishna sent regrets. Karl absent - agenda item deferred. PG to add agenda item 7 to next meetings agenda.
7 PG DS not on the call. Again, agenda item deferred. PG to add agenda item 8 to next meetings agenda.
8 DR To seek clarification from PG/KB on the intended purpose of the proposed SJC F2F and start discussion on HL's suggestion that we do this by another means.
9 DR In light of motion DR to check with con-call schedule and notify the list

  Motions  
1 DR motion that the SJC consider moving the December 26th call. HL proposed we cancel the 26th meeting until January 9th 2003 Passed unanimously
2 HL motion that if not already decided in previous meetings, the SJC open its main list to all OASIS members Passed unanimously
3 DR motion to adjourned and reconvene December 12th at 12 noon EST Passed unanimously

References

[1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-jc/200212/msg00003.html