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Updated 21 June 2001
  XML-Based Security Services TC
Advancing SAML, a common XML security standard for exchanging authentication and authorization information

Face-to-Face Meeting #3 of the Security Services TC

Attendance and Registration | Venue | Meeting Details

The OASIS Security Services TC (SSTC) will hold its third face-to-face meeting 25-26 June 2001 at the Sun Microsystems offices in Newark, California, USA.

Send meeting inquiries to Jeff Hodges, SSTC co-chair. Send venue inquiries to Eve Maler, meeting host.

Please send page corrections here.


Attendance and Registration

Registration is now closed. Voting members, prospective members, and other observers should have registered already.

This is an official meeting of the SSTC; attendance will be noted and will count towards good standing. Non-attending voting members will not be allowed to give their proxy to an attendee. Attendance by phone will not count towards good standing; neither can phone attendees make motions or vote.


Venue

The meeting will be held at the Sun offices in Newark, in the Central Park 215 room in building NWK17 ( map). The street address is 7777 Gateway Avenue. All of the following directions have been provided by Jeff Hodges, who lives in the area:

Directions from Palo Alto and other Peninsula locations:

  • Take University Avenue in Palo Alto eastbound (towards the Bay), across 101, and continue through East Palo Alto all the way until it T-bones into 84 at a stoplight and you can turn only left or right. You will be able to see the Dumbarton Bridge off to your right. Turn right.

  • [1] Go across the bay on the Dumbarton/84 until the first exit after the toll plaza (which will be on your left as you pass it) which is Thornton Ave.

  • At the end of the exit ramp, turn right onto Thorton (southbound).

  • Follow to the first light (several hundred yards/meters) which is [2] Gateway Blvd, turn left (you can't turn right).

  • Follow to the next light (the W hotel is on your right on this stretch, fyi).

  • Now, I seem to recall the Sun campus signs indicate that NWK17 is straight ahead from this light. The other option is to turn left. If you turn right, you head into Newark proper.

Another option for reaching the Dumbarton is using Willow Ave in Menlo Park (just north of Palo Alto):

  • Take Willow across 101 and follow all the way until it T-bones into the Sun Menlo Park Campus at a stoplight.

  • At that light, turn right rather than enter the Sun campus. Now follow until the next stoplight (which is University Ave (see above directions)) -- go straight through and across the Dumbarton/84 and follow the directions above beginning at [1] above.

Directions from East Bay locations to the Sun Newark Campus:

  • Take your favorite path to the intersection of I-880 (main north-south east bay freeway) and Decoto Road aka Hwy 84.

  • Take Decoto/84 westbound to the Thorton Ave exit.

  • Take the exit and at the end of the exit ramp, turn left onto Thorton Ave southbound.

  • Follow Thorton across 84 and to Gateway Blvd and follow directions at [2] above.

We will have a computer projector and whiteboard at our disposal. Sun will be providing breakfast and lunch. If you have food restrictions: Please note them in the comments section of the Evite invitation or contact the host.

The following hotels have Sun corporate rates; rates offered will vary based on dates and availability, but generally the Sun rate is 10% below the rack rate. Contact the host if you need additional hotel suggestions.

W Hotel
8200 Gateway Boulevard
Newark, CA 94560
voice +1 510 494 8800, fax +1 510 494 8809

Sheraton Palo Alto
625 El Camino Real
Palo Alto, CA 94301
voice +1 650 328 2800, fax +1 650 327 7362

Stanford Park Hotel
100 El Camino Real
Menlo Park, CA 94025
voice +1 650 322 1234, fax +1 650 322 0975

Westin Hotel
675 El Camino Real
Palo Alto, CA
+1 650 321 4422

The following hotel does not have Sun corporate rates, but it was mentioned by Jeff:

Hilton Newark/Fremont
39900 Balentine Drive
Newark, CA 94560-0564
Tel: +1 510 490 8390 Fax: +1 510 651 7828

We will have a group dinner on Monday night. Details are available.

Following are some activities to do in the area:

  • Malibu Grand Prix in Redwood City: Mini race track, miniature golf, and arcade facility
  • Dave & Busters in Milpitas: Indoor amusement park offering pool tables, shuffleboard, simulation games, and midway games
  • The Tech Museum in San Jose
  • Winchester Mystery House in San Jose
  • James Lick Observatory in San Jose

Meeting Details

The goals of the meeting are to review and approve as much of the design as possible, to assess plans for implementation and conformance, and to determine the schedule for the rest of the work.

Required Reading List

Please read these documents and bring hard or soft copies with you. The PDF versions are "more portable" than the Word versions but the information content should be the same in either version of any of the files..

  • Draft SAML Specification, F2F #3 version
    draft-sstc-ftf3-saml-spec-00.doc
    draft-sstc-ftf3-saml-spec-00.pdf

  • SAML issues list, F2F #3 version
    draft-sstc-ftf3-issues-00.doc

    draft-sstc-ftf3-issues-00.pdf


  • Draft SAML Bindings Specification, F2F #3 version
    draft-sstc-ftf3-bindings-model-00.doc

    draft-sstc-ftf3-bindings-model-00.pdf


  • Draft SAML Glossary, F2F #3 version
    draft-sstc-ftf3-glossary-00.doc

    draft-sstc-ftf3-glossary-00.pdf

Agenda

The following is a tentative agenda. Please bring a hard or soft copy with you. Be prepared to raise any problems with the minutes of the previous meeting.


Monday, 25 June 2001
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8:30 -  9:00  Meet and greet; continental breakfast
9:00 -  9:30  Administrative

                 Call to order 
                 Roll call 
                 Approve minutes of previous meeting (if we have a quorum;
                  else we must adjorn or recess -- upon which we can proceed
                  in the context of subgroup meetings)
                 Review and approve agenda (in any case)

9:30  - 10:35  Subgroup reports/presentations

        (context: identify issues to *collect*, not discuss)

           [10]  Issues List status review (Hal Lockhart)

           [15]  Bindings (Prateek Mishra; just information transfer, 
                 a detailed session to discuss issues will occur 
                 later in the meeting)

           [10]  Security & Privacy Considerations (JeffH for now)

           [15]  Sessions (Gil Piltz)

           [15]  PassThru Authentication (? Irving Reid proxy for 
                 Stephen Farrell)

10:35 - 10:50  Break 

10:50 - 11:45  Subgroup reports/presentations, cont'd

           [30]  Focus group presentations

                 [15]  core-09 (Phill)

                 [15]  assertion-00  (Eve & DaveO)
                  

           [25]  Issue identification & collection (we'll feed these into the 
                 three focused "assertion + reqs/resps" discussions to follow)

11:45 - 1:00   Lunch 

1:00  - 3:00   Assertion + Request/responses discussion

                 "authz dec assertion" + related requests/responses

3:00  - 3:15   Break

3:15  - 4:30   Assertion + Request/responses discussion, cont'd

                 "authz dec assertion" + related requests/responses, cont'd

                 (we can begin to take on either of the other two 
                  "assertion + reqs/resps" discussions on the table if we finish
                  this one)

4:30  - 5:30   Conformance Group reports/presentations

5:30  - 7:00   Break + travel time to dinner location (Blue Chalk in Palo Alto)

7:00 - 9:00 Group dinner



 Tuesday, 26 June 2001
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8:30  - 9:00   Continental breakfast

9:00  - 9:15   Administrative

                 Review of, and tweaks to, the Agenda for this second day
                 Summary of findings/observations from previous day

9:15  - 10:30  Assertion + Request/responses discussion, cont'd

                 "attribute assertion" + related requests/responses

10:30 - 10:45  Break

10:45 - 12:15   Assertion + Request/responses discussion, cont'd

                  "attribute assertion" + related requests/responses, cont'd

                  "authn assert"  + related requests/responses

12:15 - 1:30   Lunch (conformance sub-group discussion, and perhaps other
                 huddles)

1:30  - 3:00   Overall Request/Response analysis/review, and folding findings
               back into assertion + req/resp design.

                  (perhaps we'll need to use this time for further 
                   "assertion + reqs/resps" discussions)

3:00  - 3:45   Review & discuss schedule specifics, and F2F #4.   

3:45  - 4:00   Summary, review action items, & adjourn




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