Attendance
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William Cox |
BEA |
No |
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Graeme Riddell |
Bowstreet |
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Greg Giles |
Cisco |
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Srinivas Vadhri |
Commerce One |
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Kirk Wilson |
Computer Associates |
No |
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Sean Fitts |
Crossweave |
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Timothy N. Jones |
Crossweave |
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Peter Quintas |
Divine |
No |
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Robert Serr |
Divine |
No |
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Sandra Swearingen |
DoD |
No |
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Monica Martin |
Drake Certivo |
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Alan Korpp |
Epicentric |
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Patel Ashish |
France Telecom |
No |
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Aditi Karandikar |
France Telecom |
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Royston Sellman |
HP |
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Dan Bongard |
Kinzan |
No |
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Charles Wiecha |
IBM (chair) |
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Dan Gisolfi |
IBM |
No |
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Ravi Konuru |
IBM |
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Rich Thompson |
IBM |
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Shankar Ramaswamy |
IBM |
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T.V. Raman |
IBM |
No |
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Rex Brooks |
individual |
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John Kneiling |
individual |
No |
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Kevin Brinkley |
Intel |
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Michael Mahan |
Nokia |
No |
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Terry Cline |
Peregrine Systems |
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Sasha Aicken |
Plumtree |
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Stefan Beck |
SAP |
No |
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Jeffrey C. Broberg |
Silverstream |
No |
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Suresh Damodaran |
Sterling Commerce |
No |
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Eilon Reshef |
WebCollage |
No |
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Gil Tayar |
WebCollage |
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Agenda
1. Roll call and minutes
2. Review of agenda for next weekās Face to Face
3. Overview of Customized Use Case and Requirements. Detailed Review will take place at F2F.
4. Status update on Embedded Use Case.
5. Status update on collaboration with WSRP TC.
6. Status of liaison relationships with W3C.
Meeting
12:00
roll call
12:05
review of minutes and actions from last
meeting.
Minutes
approved. Actions all set.
12:05
Review of agenda for next weekās F2F
Reviewed
Agenda. Eilon will pull together requirements doc from section 7 of the
Embedded Case + those from Customized. Weāll review requirements and edit them
real time during the F2F, and then do the same for the Customized.
action: Rich Thompson ö circulate latest WSXL doc (itās
been updated to reflect latest ideas in Embedded and Customized).
Maybe pull the
ADL topic back from Friday into the Customized discussion as thatās where it is
particularly relevant.
action: anyone
planning to attend remotely ö let Charlie know so he can plan/add to capacity.
12:20
Status of Customized - Ravi
In
subcommittee there was some discussion of what it means to Customize, and
whether that meant the Provider should do everything or the Consumer should be
able to make modifications. Decided not to try to solve the implementation now
but to surface the scenarios in the Use Case. ie, describe the kinds of
customization instead of deciding where they are performed.
So Customized
and Integrated docs have merged together, it exposes application-specific
properties with some description of how they can be modified. Also describes
how the Consumer can intercept, view and modify the datastream between the
Producer and end user. Have added notion of Producer specifying what things are
allowed to be customized.
In 2.2.6 have
drilled down on the elements being modified to break out the kinds of
Customizations. There are 3 types (Presentation, Data, Control) and 2 places
(Producer and Consumer) so weāll discuss at the F2F whether that 3x2 discussion
of customization makes sense.
Q: Is there an
Event discussion?
A: No, just
actions. Itās an extension of the actions in the Embedded Case.
12:40
Status of Embedded ö Rich, Alan
Flushing out
section 7 and adding pointers to Eilonās requirements doc. Thereās a WSRP/WSIA
joint interfaces telecon at 11 EST on Monday to review the requirements and
make sure they sync with what WSRP is doing.
Q: Should
WSRP-related requirements take priority now?
A: Probably,
in order to hit the draft spec goal in July, but we shouldnāt let it stop us going
in a direction if we feel thatās what we need to do.
12:40
WSRP Collaboration - Alan
Getting into
rich discussions in Protocols & Interfaces, trying to pull that into the
Embedded Case without allowing it to get too portlet specific. Havenāt seen anything
yet that is divergent from what weāre doing.
Initial
feeling was that it might make the Embedded Case too complex. WSRP is probably
bigger than Embedded and overlaps Customized. We should probably discuss this
next week.
Alan is
leading the liaison with WSRP and understanding this commonality.
June 24-27
will be the back-to-back WSRP and WSIA at Oracleās facilities in San Francisco.
12:45
W3C relationships
Karl asked
Charlie to liaise with the W3C Web Services Working Group. There will be someone
from WSRP nominated too. Will probably be looking for more liaisons (eg,
XForms?) and looking for volunteers for that. Can raise this at the F2F.
12:50
adjourn.