OASIS Web Services for Remote Portals (WSRP) TC

WSRP Conference Call - June 13, 2002

Roll Call

Andre Cramer, Citrix
Alan Kropp, Epicentric
Carsten Leue, IBM
Rich Thompson, IBM
Thomas Schaeck, IBM
Charlie Weicha, IBM
Lothar Merk, IBM
Petr Palas, Moravia IT
Mark Cassidy, Netegrity
Mike Freedman, Oracle
Sasha Aickin, Plumtree
Jane Dynin, Plumtree
Michael Young, Plumtree
Jon Klein, Reed-Elsivier
Steve Pruitt, Silverstream
Jeff Broberg, Silverstream
Alejandro Abdelnur, Sun
Tim Granshaw, SAP
Stephen White, SeeBeyond
Joe Rudnicki, US Dept. of Navy
Andreas Kuehne

Agenda

• Minutes
  • Accepted without comment
• Mailing Lists (Lothar)
  • We have many new mailing lists; we should start using the new lists on Monday the 17th
  • 5 lists for subgroups and one main list
  • Use current list for overall comments and other lists for subgroups
• Dinner at F2F
  • Dinner on Tuesday looks good
  • MikeF will find a restaurant
    • Difficulty finding a restaurant that will accept 25 checks
    • We could have dinner at Oracle and prepay MikeF.
      • Would be about $20; can forward out menus to choose from
      • MikeF will expect payment Tuesday!
    • Plan for about a half hour break after meeting and before dinner
    • If you need a specific receipt, let MikeF know.
• Common Interfaces (Alan)
  • Rich & Carsten worked on a spec (0.1.2); went out on Friday
    • Carsten got WSRP perspective in there
  • Big issues
    • Transient vs. persistent entities
    • Sessions
    • Batching operations through the interface
      • Now has arrays not only as parameters but also as return types
    • Separate action routing mechanism outside of getMarkup
  • Mike just sent out a response to the spec which will probably generate more discussions
• Interfaces & Protocols (MikeF)
  • Looking at requirements and deciding what needs to be done with them
  • Got a lot done on registrations
  • Are spending a lot of time looking at sessions
    • Not necessarily requirements but what the requirements mean
  • Trying to get together requirements for F2F to talk about
  • Sessions and transient/persistent entities are major questions
  • How persistent information is managed is still a big discussion point as well
  • Thomas -- We also need to make sure that the relationship between entities and sessions is consistent with JSR 168
  • The request-response model is also important to deal with
  • Thomas - We should use the next week to identify the agreed upon items and the open items so that we can present the agreed upon items and discuss the open items
  • Will there be any time for sub-committees to meet?
    • Sasha - 2:45-4:30 on Tuesday is for sub-committee meetings
• Publish Find Bind Metadata (MikeF)
  • Kind of in stasis here
  • Sent out an e-mail asking for existing metadata from the portal vendors
  • Can folks send them to MikeF or bring them to the face to face and we can see what the union is
  • Thomas - we will send ours next week
• Markup Fragments and Styles (Chris)
  • Consolidating styles
  • Now looking at URL rewriting
    • There are two methods that people want in the spec; we're looking at how/if we can include them both
  • MikeF - FYI, we will have a projector for the laptop and a slide projector, also, about 15 network connections
• Security & SSO (Mark)
  • Map to transport mechanisms
  • For document based mechanisms, do they work with existing infrastructure/standards
  • A lot of progress on how these thing fit in with other standards
  • Mark is working on spec and requirements
  • Not many controversial things here; mostly leveraging other specs and making sure they play together well
  • Biggest thing that is new is a way to explain a policy for how a producer wants to send information
    • We will have to have some WSRP specific metadata for how to sign and encrypt documents
    • Might be something that we throw away when policy standards become robust
    • Thomas - maybe we shouldn't define it in v1.0, then, and should wait for the specs to come out
    • Unfortunately, we don't know what those specs are going to be, and digital signing seems to be a must have feature
    • Rich - we also may be able to write to the draft standards that will come out in late summer
  • Relevant standards
    • WS-Security
    • XML Signature
    • XML Encryption
    • We thought that SAML (for requiring portlet to ask portal for a particular level of authentication) was not in the 1.0 timeframe
• Agenda for F2F
  • Monday
    • Welcome
    • Presentation from Navy
    • Interfaces & Protocols (2 sessions)
    • Lunch
    • WSRP Markup Fragments
    • Publish Find Bind Metadata
  • Tuesday
    • Security, Identity, SSO
    • Implementation
    • Lunch
    • Milestone Update - are they valid?
    • Breakout Sessions
    • Summaries of breakouts
    • Dinner
  • Wednesday
    • Common WSRP/WSIA meeting
    • Charlie - there's more detail in an agenda I sent out to WSIA; I'll send it to WSRP
• Business Scenarios
  • Send latest to Lothar so he can put on website
• Any other items?
  • Meeting adjourned