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Subject: RE: [sca-assembly] Discussion Proposed solutions before premature motion and long ammendement chains
This was approved as a Committee Specification prior to the conformance deadline. m > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Chapman [mailto:martin.chapman@oracle.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:45 PM > To: 'Simon Nash'; 'Mike Edwards' > Cc: 'OASIS Assembly' > Subject: RE: [sca-assembly] Discussion Proposed solutions before premature > motion and long ammendement chains > > We have to be able to efficiently dispose of those resolutions that are > approximately ok vs those that the group will not accept no > matter what the wording. When people request changing a particular word for > another word at the start of a discussion its hard to > know if a proposal is acceptable at all. Therefore it is on all of us to > express general agreement/disagreement before getting into > nitty gritty wording, and to read and comment on proposals in between > meetings. > > Martin. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Simon Nash [mailto:NASH@uk.ibm.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:34 PM > >To: Mike Edwards > >Cc: OASIS Assembly > >Subject: Re: [sca-assembly] Discussion Proposed solutions > >before premature motion and long ammendement chains > > > > > >I agree. We have to find a way to get through discussions > >like this more > >efficiently, or we will never get to a finished spec. > > > > Simon > > > >Simon C. Nash, IBM Distinguished Engineer > >Member of the IBM Academy of Technology > >Tel. +44-1962-815156 Fax +44-1962-818999 > > > > > > > >Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB > >17/10/2007 13:19 > > > >To > >"OASIS Assembly" <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org> > >cc > > > >Subject > >Re: [sca-assembly] Discussion Proposed solutions before > >premature motion > >and long ammendement chains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Tom, > > > >Big +1 from me. > > > >How about you put this forward as a standing rule motion at the next > >Assembly call. > > > >I think that it is far better to get problems with the wording > >sorted out > >before formal motions take place. > >Motions can be an abysmal and slow way of changing text. > > > >If there is a problem that folk have with the nature of the > >proposal, that > >is a different matter. That is where > >amendments to formal motions allow for good decisionmaking. > > > > > >Yours, Mike. > > > >Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO. > >Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC. > >IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, Great Britain. > >Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431 > >Email: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com > > > > > >Tom Rutt <tom@coastin.com> > >16/10/2007 16:45 > > > >Please respond to > >tom@coastin.com > > > > > >To > >sca assembly <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org> > >cc > > > >Subject > >[sca-assembly] Discussion Proposed solutions before premature > >motion and > >long ammendement chains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In discussing the issue 6, a Motion was made to accept the proposed > >solution, before we had time to > >discuss the wording of the proposal. > > > >In many committees, it has been allowed to have wordsmith to a > >proposed > >issue resolution before a motion > >to accept is made. > > > >This allows easier discussion of the wording changes without > >going thru > >a painful chain of ammendments. > > > >I suggest that motions should not be made until there has been > >discussion of the proposed resolution, and > >people have had a chance to voice all their concerns on the > >proposed text. > > > >Tom Rutt > > > >-- > >---------------------------------------------------- > >Tom Rutt email: tom@coastin.com; trutt@us.fujitsu.com > >Tel: +1 732 801 5744 Fax: +1 732 774 5133 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Unless stated otherwise above: > >IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales > >with number > >741598. > >Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, > >Hampshire PO6 3AU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Unless stated otherwise above: > >IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales > >with number > >741598. > >Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, > >Hampshire PO6 3AU > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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