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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

30 APR 2009

Attendees

Present
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Sanjay Patil
Scribe
Dieter Koenig

Contents

Topics
[1]  Agenda bashing
[2]  Approval of Apr 23, 2009 minutes
[3]  Administrivia
[4]  Action Items review
[5]  New Issues
[6]  Issue Discussion
[7]  Test assertion doc
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:
2009-04-30-1: Anish to open a new issue in order to remove the redundant rule SBPEL2019
2009-04-30-2: Anish to submit a new issue regd 2022 "MAY" and recursivity
2009-04-30-3: Editors to fix the typo "orginalName"

Resolutions

Minutes

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1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of Apr 23, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00065.html
5. Administrivia
Public Review Announcement
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00054.html
Subscription to the PR comments list
http://www.oasis-open.org/kmlm/member/list?list_name=sca-bpel-comment
PR Comments list
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-comment/
Call for disclosure
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00059.html
5. Action Items review
#0062 Sanjay - Reword SBL-TA-SP01 to reflect new tighter spec language
PENDING
#0064 Michael Rowley - to draft a resolution to issue-38 based on the discussion
DONE
#0065 Dieter Koenig - Look for a new issue wrt parterlinks and test assertion 2014
6. New Issues
a> issue 39 - References to WS-BPEL 2.0 Attributes myRole and partnerRole
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00055.html
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-39
7. Issue Discussion
Issue 38: Is the 'MUST' in section 2.1.2 needed?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-38
Email Discussion
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00062.html
8. Test assertion doc
Latest Draft v06: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00028.html
Review TAs added by Anish from SBL-TA-2017
Review TAs added by Khanderao from SBL-TA-3001
Review TAs added by Sanjay from SBL-TA-SP04
Will start at TA2017
9. Plan for testing
Seeking volunteers to write test cases
10. AOB

Scribe: Dieter Koenig

Agenda bashing

 
Agenda approved

Approval of Apr 23, 2009 minutes

 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00065.html
 
Minutes approved
Resolution: Minutes of 2009-04-23 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00065.html approved

Administrivia

 
Public Review Announcement
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00054.html
Subscription to the PR comments list
http://www.oasis-open.org/kmlm/member/list?list_name=sca-bpel-comment
PR Comments list
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-comment/
Call for disclosure
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00059.html
 
Several TC members have subscribed to the PR comments list

Action Items review

:

#0062 Sanjay - Reword SBL-TA-SP01 to reflect new tighter spec language
PENDING
#0064 Michael Rowley - to draft a resolution to issue-38 based on the discussion
DONE
#0065 Dieter Koenig - Look for a new issue wrt parterlinks and test assertion 2014
 
AI 0062 still pending
 
AI 0064 is done
 
AI 0065 is done

New Issues

 
a> issue 39 - References to WS-BPEL 2.0 Attributes myRole and partnerRole
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00055.html
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-39
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Dieter explains issue 39
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Dieter: in WS-BPEL the partnerLink element has myrole and partnerRole which are optional
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... it is sufficient to specify only one, the other is implied
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thanks Anish for covering for the scribe
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... a PL referencing a PLT only has one role
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... the spec talks about partnerRole which may not be present
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... in many cases, it just says the partnerRole of the PL or the myRole of the PL
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... to keep the impact at the minimum we can say that the values are either explicit or implied
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... the only exception is SBPEL3011
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Danny: ws-bpel does not require explicit attributes. But perhaps we are reading too much of the fact that the ws-bpel spec does not require the attributes
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Dieter: certainly is best practice to include it, but being picky here
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Sanjay: the proposal still talks about attributes
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Dieter: yes, need to reword the proposal
Martin C wonders how we can fix bugs in ws-bpel
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Danny: if we open this issue I want to ensure that we are not encouraging anyone to not specify the partnerRole in WS-BPEL
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... this is a bug in WS-BPEL
 
Motion to open BPEL-39 (m: Dieter, s: MikeE)
 
Motion accepted without objection
Resolution: Issue 39 is opened
 
Dieter to resubmit a revised proposal

Issue Discussion

 
Issue 38: Is the 'MUST' in section 2.1.2 needed?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-38
Email Discussion
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00062.html
 
Discussion postponed until MikeR is present

Test assertion doc

 
Latest Draft v06: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00028.html
Review TAs added by Anish from SBL-TA-2017
Review TAs added by Khanderao from SBL-TA-3001
Review TAs added by Sanjay from SBL-TA-SP04
Will start at TA2017
 
Anish will open a new issue in order to remove the redundant rule SBPEL2019
 
(New Action Item)
 
Continuing with SBL-TA-2020 - SBL-TA-2022
Action: Anish to open a new issue in order to remove the redundant rule SBPEL2019
 
Would "Multiple partner links (defined in different scopes) share the same name." be ok?
 
In SBL-TA-2020, we replace the Prerequisite statements a) and b) by the combined statement above
 
In SBPEL2022, it seems that the MAY has to be replaced by a MUST
 
Moreover, the rule SBPEL2022 must be applied recursively
 
New Action Item: Anish will submit a new issue
Action: Anish to submit a new issue regd 2022 "MAY" and recursivity
Action: Editors to fix the typo "orginalName"
 
Continuing with SBL-TA-3001
 
Prerequisite should be about "two or more variable declarations."
 
Continuing with SBL-TA-3002
 
Update Prerequisite a)
 
a) a variable declaration has an sca-bpelroperty attribute
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Khanderao's TAs, finished TA3002. Next time start at TA3003
 
Continuing with SBL-TA-SP04
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Moved to sanjay's TAs
 
(running out of time)
 
Need to revisit SBL-TA-SP04 next time
 
No time for Agenda Topic 9.
 
10. AOB
 
Meeting adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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