- Gary presented his issues with the Grouping object
    - Needs timestamps and some other properties
    - 
    - Also we have a new approach to add objects

- JMG:
    - Suggest we don't call it a Grouping object
    - That made JMG realize

- Sean:
    - This is different than grouping. This is about suspicious activity. That concept is being reopened.
    - Grouping was about not talking through that but rather doing a short-term
    - Sean is resistent to opening this Pandoras box now. We could go back and forth forever on this
    - Question: was confused by internal vs. external...

- Gary:
    - Internal vs. external: was reading internal references vs. external references
        - This means you don't get pivoting via TAXII relationship pivoting

- Bret:
    - Fully supports Gary's proposal, we should work on this.

- JMG:
    - Discussion of not being able to query grouping objects. We need to address that deficiency in TAXII. It also applies to the report object
    - Are the links to the other objects canonical from the author's point of view? For report and grouping they do.

- Gary:
    - Two things changed:
        - Getting pushed to go down the STIX/TAXII path. Would like the couple hundred companies to build to this.
        - We were spinning our wheels because it wasn't clear how to propose it. Now that we have clear guidance...DC3 can say it's an object to go with, 


- Call for sponsors

    - Bret and Trey:
        - Clarify we need functional tests for what it means to implement it in an interoperable way
    
    - JMG:
        - This doesn't have to be part of a shipping product

    - Sponsors are captured in the cover page

- Label property names
    - Bret: isn't this really just classifications? Can we call it that?
    - Jason: the normative text calls it type, let's call it that
    - Sean: the text is trying to make it as clear as possible. Let's use the most clearly intuitive name
    - Some discussion of what the property is meant for. Human-defined tags vs. open vocab vs. closed vocab
    - Voting results are captured in Github