ebXML CPPA Technical Committee Teleconference
April 19, 2002
Attendees
Dale Moberg
Peter Ogden
Marty Sachs
Arvola Chan
David Fischer
David Smiley
Hima Mukkamala
Jamie Clark
Pete Wenzel
Administrivia
Dale began by soliciting votes on the ballot for TC approval of the version 1.9 CPPA spec. He also pointed out that on the ballot, he said that the voting deadline would be 4/23 but a previous announcement had specified 4/26. It was agreed that the deadline should be 4/26.
May 18 will be the end of the initial public comment period, giving us time to address any necessary changes before the Barcelona OASIS meeting.
Mercator will host next F2F in Reston, VA, June 3-5. 9am-5pm for first two days, probably half a day on 6/5.
Dale has contacted two additional OASIS corporate members that have done CPPA implementation work about their willingness to sign a statement regarding their use of the spec.
Marty talked about recent discussions on the IBM patent disclosure. In the ebTWG community this week there was a lot of discussion about this, followed by ZDNet article that was considered by some to be inflammatory. In general, there was concern about the possibility that IBM might use its patents to encumber ebXML CPP/A implementations or the standard itself. Yesterday, Marty posted a statement from IBM that it would NOT charge royalties for either of the two patents in question. Marty also pointed out (on the call today) that IBM was not going to modify its Intellectual Property Disclosure because the IBM legal staff has determined that the "Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory" language in that disclosure are compatible with yesterday's commitment to charge nothing.
David Fischer asked what aspects of the CPP/A IBM felt its patents covered. Marty responded (after a disclaimer that he's not a patent attorney) that the language of the patents is deliberately broad, and that it is really up to each implementing company and its patent attorney(s) to determine whether they have an issue. Someone else asked whether there was a necessity for implementers to register with IBM; again, the response was "check with your attorneys".
Agenda
Marty can't find anywhere in spec where it specifies where the CipherSuite string can be used. Dale said that they should be used in the EncryptionAlgorithm element. Dale will update the spec to clarify this point and redistribute today.
Dale mentioned that Karl Best requested modifications to the copyright statements, which were included by Tony in the 1.12 version he sent out yesterday.
Subteam Reports
Negotiation - Continuing to discuss details of what's in NDD. Slow going due to Brian and Jean being gone.
Dale said that the upcoming F2F will be largely focused on "what's next": Negotiation, BTP/WSCL/others, WSDL/XMLP, Context/Core Components, SAML/XACML, etc. Dale solicited volunteers to write up "initial findings" on these areas for presentation at the June F2F. These presentations would help us decide whether new subteams should be formed to deal with these areas.
There was general agreement that we might want to overlap the CPPA F2F with a MSG F2F.
Jamie Clark suggested that if we decide to explicitly support other messaging protocols (besides MSG), we need to consider ALL available alternatives (or, at least, more than one). We want to remain impartial to other standards.
Jamie stated that he's hoping for a formal statement from IBM regarding their commitment not to charge royalties for the use of their recently disclosed patents.
The meeting was adjourned at 9am MST.
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