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Name * TC Conference Call (Conference Call)
Time Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 12:00pm to 01:00pm EDT
(Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 04:00pm to 05:00pm UTC)
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Minutes
9/11 = Quorate 
Scribe = Mike Edwards 
Agenda Bashing 
No changes 
Item 2 Approval of Minutes from 7 May 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=35115 
Minutes are accepted without change 
Item 3 Action Items 
None 
 
Item 4 New Issues 
Remove dependencies on SCA Policy and SCA WS Binding 
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/SCAASSEMBLY-8 
Jim M discusses this new issue 
a) burden of supporting all the technologies 
b) WS not so relevant today 
Mike: which version was this issue aimed at? 
Mike:I note that V1.1 would require a supermajority vote; regular majority for a later version. 
Ashok: How much effort would be required to modify the specifications?  I think it would be a lot of work 
Anish Karmarkar: all conformant impl require that they consume wsdl interfaces (for remotable) 
Jeff: And which version is this against?  We have V1.1 & V2 (with the Event Processing stuff) 
Anish Karmarkar: but the conformant impl must be able to consume 
Discussion of the required changes implied by not supporting WS binding 
- what about support for WSDL?  That is required in parts of the spec 
- there is also the question of the test suite 
MartinC: I have to drop for another call 
Anish Karmarkar: i can't see this being a 1.1.1 
Anish Karmarkar: this is a huge change 
Anish Karmarkar: what i mean is that this is a breaking change 
 
Item 5 Status of other TCs 
  
- Bindings 
- Policy 
- Java 
Simon: Bindings TC is awaiting this discussion in Assembly 
- would affect whether specs could be moved to committee spec level 
Anish Karmarkar: i can't see what binding.ws means without assembly 
Anish Karmarkar: so, i don't think binding is being blocked by assembly 
Anish: I assume that the issue raised by Jim is about decoupling 
Mike: Bindings clearly depends on Assembly 
Anish Karmarkar: my point is that binding is not waiting on assembly for anything 
Simon: At the moment Assembly is blocked from getting to committee spec by its dependence on WS binding 
Anish Karmarkar: wrt java and bpel, exit criteria has not been met 
Anish Karmarkar: for bpel we don't have 2 impls 
Anish Karmarkar: for java, we have one impl for POJO and one for spring 
Anish Karmarkar: but spring is still a draft 
Anish Karmarkar: java and bpel TCs haven't met in a while 
 
Jim: conformance claim for Fabric3 to Policy: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-policy/email/archives/201303/msg00006.html 
 
Item 6 Date on Next Meeting
Anish Karmarkar: i'm at a f2f on 15th 
22nd October 
 
 
Item 7 AOB
None
 


Agenda
1. Intro 
 
Roll call 
Scribe confirmation 
Agenda bashing 
 
2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting 
 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=35115 
 
 
3. Action Items 
 
None
 
4. New Issues
 
Remove dependencies on SCA Policy and SCA WS Binding
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/SCAASSEMBLY-8 
 
Discussion:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00005.html
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00006.html
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00007.html
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00008.html 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00009.html 
 
5. Status of other TCs
 
- Bindings
- Policy
- Java
 
6. Date of Next Meeting
 
TBD
 
7. AOB


Submitter Dr. Martin Chapman
GroupOASIS Service Component Architecture / Assembly (SCA-Assembly) TC
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