: 2002-05-24 : F2F Barcelona (9:00-12:00)
Secretary, Review and Publication: Bernard Vatant
Release: 2002, May 27.
Bernard Vatant, James David Mason, Mary Nishikawa, Holger Rath, Steve
Pepper, Thomas Bandholtz.
Durusau, Motomu Naïto.
Welcome - Membership
60 day prospective member status is over. He is welcome as TC voting
Discussion of proposed
Steve Pepper proposes
a general discussion on what are the minimal Requirements and Recommendations
for PSI, before going back to the discussion on Deliverable 1. There
is a general agreement on this proposal.
Discussion of PSI
minimal Requirements and Recommendations
the following list of two requirements and three recommendations is
Note that Requirement #1 allows URNs to be PSIs. Issue raised: what
is the Subject Indicator in that case?
Structure and Constituents
of Deliverable 1
There is a consensus
among present members that, in order to deliver the first recommendation
as soon as possible, and given the number of pending issues on "PSDoc"
deliverable, it would be relevant to split this deliverable into two parts,
the first one dealing with Vocabulary, Concepts, General Requirements
and Recommendations, and the second one dealing with the specific issues
of Published Subject Documentation.
Subjects : General Concepts, Requirements and Recommendations"
would contain the following :
- Primer (gentle introduction)
and Recommendations as defined in above section
- Definitions (when needed) or/and references to ISO 13250, glossary
- Generic (paradigmatic) PSIs
of Published Subjects : Requirements and Recommendations"
This part would be put on the backburner till the first one is delivered.
Given the importance
of this decision, although the meeting has a quorum majority to take it,
it is decided that it will be submitted to further e-mail discussion and
vote, so that every TC member will be able to express on it before final
Discussion of Example
- The introductory
example should be non-recursive, easy to understand, and addressing
the fundamental issues (identity vs names, multilingual names ...) "Oranges
and Apples" is chosen.
- The PS Indicators
for the example presentation will be expressed in XHTML, and annex XTM
file will contain formal assertions about the subjects.
- PS Identifiers
schema. Consensus on recommending for URLs the use of a namespace with
the psi prefix, allowing quick identification by search engines, e.g.
http://psi.mydomain.org/... Different further possibilities are discussed
(list below), as well as issues raised by use of fragment identifiers
or data base queries. Debate to be continued.
- There is a consensus
that the URI should carry some clues helping human use, i.e. to identify
the subject "apple", "http://psi.fruits.org/fruits.html#apple"
is more recommended than "http://psi.fruits.org/foo.html#bar"
Linked issues are
pointed, to be discussed later, including language management and character
Road Map - Home Work
- Bernard will submit
the new deliverable structure to TC vote,
and propose a draft for the new General Recommendation.
- Steve will propose
a draft XHTML for the example "Apples and Oranges"
- Lars Marius will
ask OASIS for the use of psi.oasis-open.org for publication of PSIs
(on behalf of the three TCs PubSubj, XMLvoc and GeoLang)
- Deadline for the
first "new" deliverable : August 2002 (Montréal Extreme
- Deadline for PSDoc
deliverable postponed to December 2002
- Next Conference
Call : June 25, 15:00 - 15:45 UTC
Discussion about relevancy of keeping conference-calls at all. Although
they are expensive and not highly productive, they provide deadlines
pushing to work, and allow people not able to travel to attend meetings.
Reducing co-call time from 2 hours to 45' is a trade-off.
- Next F2F meeting
In Montréal after Extreme Markup. Provisional date August 10.
Request from Mary : having the meetings during the conference, instead
of after, would reduce the cost and length of travel. Steve's remark
is that conference's schedule is often very loaded for most TC members
who are also conference speakers.