Meeting
Minutes
: 2002-12-13 : Baltimore
Meeting
Notes: Patrick Durusau
Review and Publication: Bernard Vatant
Updated: 2003-01-04.
Attending Members
Bernard Vatant, Lars Marius Garshol, Steve Pepper,
Peter Flynn, Holger Rath, Don Smith
Excused Members
Thomas Bandholtz, Suellen Stringer-Hye, Jim
Mason, Eamonn Neylon, Mary Nishikawa, Michael Priestley, Vivian
Bliss
Invited Guests
Patrick Durusau, Eric Freese, Motomu Naito,
Tom Passin
1. Quorum
Vivian Bliss and Don Smith prospective membership period being over, they
should be accepted as voting members. But the quorum for this meeting
is not achieved, whatever the counting : 5/11 if Vivian and Don are not
taken into account, and 6/13 if they are. This meeting is therefore not
enabled to vote any decision.
Some members have not attended the three last meetings. They will be reminded
by the chair of OASIS guidelines concerning attendance.
Suggestion to try IRC meetings. Peter proposes to moderate a first one,
since he has experience on it.
2. New prospective
members
Patrick Durusau (SBL), Eric Freese (Lexis Nexis),
Motomu Naito (Synergy Incubate) ask to become TC members. They
will send by e-mail a formal confirmation of that request.
3. Minutes from
Montreal
Default quorum, the minutes will be submitted to approval by e-mail
4. Deliverable
1 final draft
The final draft published by Bernard has been submitted to revision by
english native speaker, namely Steve who proposed to do it, but eventually
passed the baby to Patrick. The editorial work of Patrick is much appreciated
in the introductory part, but he seems to have made some substantial changes
on the content of requirements and recommendations, that are discussed
and rejected.
Steve will make the synthesis of Patrick's prose and previous draft, and
will send it for final vote and approval, ASAP and hopefully before the
end of the year.
5. Organisation
of http://psi.oasis-open.org
- The namespace
http://psi.oasis-open.org
has been made available to host PSIs published by OASIS TCs.
A provisional content has been set up by Lars Marius. Definitive content
and structure of this page has to be discussed.
- Discussion on
the structure of URLs in that namespace. Two requirements proposed by
Steve for the URLs : be as short as possible (but not shorter), and
carry certain semantics, so as to be human-friendly whenever possible.
General agreement on that, but human readibility shall not override
URL stability. For example GeoLang choice for numeric codes in countries'
PSI stands on stability considerations: alpha codes would carry more
semantics but are known to be less stable in ISO 3166.
- The structure should
also be extensible and usable by other TCs.
Including TC name in the URL seems a bad practice, since TCs are likely
to be unstable entities.
On that basis,
recommendation to change URLs used in GeoLang draft,
e.g. from "http://psi.oasis-open.org/geolang/iso639/#foo"
to "http://psi.oasis-open.org/iso/639/#foo".
- Should directory
URLs be used as PSIs, and if yes, for what subjects?
No general consensus for that. If a directory URL is used as a PSI,
it has to be explicit in the directory index.
For example : http://psi.oasis-open.org/iso/639/ could be used as PSI
for the set of PSIs defined in the directory, or as a PSI for ISO-639
standard. Both are needed, but the URL can't be used for both.
In that specific case, decision is that it will be the PSI for the PSI
set (see below). Making it a general recommendation or not is a pending
issue.
6. Discussion
of GeoLang draft PSIs
- GeoLang has published
a draft of PSIs set at http://psi.oasis-open.org/geolang/iso639/
This set is discussed to see how it fits general recommendations and
what issues are raised.
- Lars presents
the structure: title for PSI set, introductory text, then human readable
metadata, underneath links to machine readable metadata, split into
metadata about the PSI set, then basic assertions about the language,
then section with actual indicators, 3 individual ones, then individual
ones with explanations, giving all the information the standard has.
- Discussion about
title. Is it to be used as a name of the subject set? In that case,
relevancy of inclusion of "Published Subjects for" in the
title is discussed. Using it as a "machine-readable-prefix"
is considered, but does not bring consensus (might raise issue, e.g.
for further creation of PSI sets registries). Agreement to keep "Published
subjects for languages in ISO 639" anyway as title in the HTML
page.
- Discussion about
the human-readable metadata. "Source" has to be added.
- Discussion about
machine-readable metadata. Findable through LINK elements in the HTML
HEAD element.
Need to register an XTM MIME type. Suggestion to have some Dublin Core
in the header.
- Redefine the PSI
for the PSI set to be the URL of the page. Having both
"http://psi.oasis-open.org/geolang/iso639/#psiset" and "http://psi.oasis-open.org/geolang/iso639/"
would lead to confusion.
- Should put something
about copyright at the top of the page.
- All suggestions
pushed into GeoLang to comply.
Turn back to pending issues for Deliverable 2, and see which have been
addressed through GeoLang use case.
7. Next meetings
- IRC meeting
Jan 23th 1300 UTC, to try if it works for everyone, the agenda being
the schedule of London meeting.
- Further IRC meetings
or conference calls to be fixed.
- F2F meeting at
XML Europe London in May. Day to be fixed.
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