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       Meeting 
        Minutes 
        : 2003-02-06 : IRC meeting 
      Redaction: 
        Suellen Stringer-Hye, from IRC logs 
        Review and Publication: Bernard Vatant 
        Release: 2003-02-17. 
       Attendance 
        - Voting members: Bernard Vatant, Lars Marius Garshol, 
         Peter Flynn, Mary Nishikawa,  
        Suellen Stringer-Hye,  Vivian Bliss, Thomas Bandholtz, Michael 
        Priestley 
         - 
        Prospective members: Eric Freese, Motomu 
        Naito 
         
        Excused: Jim Mason, Steve Pepper 
      Absent: Jim 
        Mason, Steve Pepper, Holger Rath, Eamonn Neylon, Patrick Durusau, Don 
        Smith 
      Invited Guest: 
        Geir Ove Grønmo 
         
          1. Agenda 
        
      Review of document 
        "A Gentle Introduction to Published Subjects", drafted by Steve 
        Pepper  
        http://www.ontopia.net/tmp/pubsubj-gentle-intro.htm 
           
        
      2. Discussion of 
        document 
      Section 2-1  
         
        Proposals: 
        
          -  The word gravitation 
            should be changed to gravity
 
             
          
        - Change line "Other 
          formalisms may use other names; for example, RDF uses the term "resource" 
          for what amounts to the same thing" to something like "Other 
          formalisms may use other names". Do not include direct reference 
          to RDF. Somehow express the fact that the topic is an "electronic 
          symbol" for the subject.
 
             
          
        - Classes are designed 
          by singular nouns: change "famous scientists" to "famous 
          scientist"
 
         
        Decisions: 
           
        
          
        - Change to gravity 
          (more usual)
 
             
          
        - Come up with wording 
          via email. 
 
             
          - No decision made. 
            Much debate about natural language consistency versus programming 
            language consistency and whether, for precision, these two need to 
            match. Agreed to take discussion to lists. 
 
         
        
      Section 2-3  
        Proposals: 
        
          
        -  "Subject 
          Identity" should be replaced by "Subject Identification" 
          in the statement "discovering which subject is represented by a 
          topic is the process of subject identification" and throughout 
          the document for consistency, since "establishing subject identity" 
          means "subject identification".
 
             
          - Take off-line 
            two issues : "fragment identifiers" and "canonical 
            resource" 
 
         
        Decisions: 
           
        
          - Agreed
 
             
          - Agreed
 
         
        
      Section 2-3.1 
        Proposals: 
        
          
        -  Change "network-retrievable 
          information resource" to "information resource" since 
          "resource" by definition means network retrievable. 
          
 
         
        Decisions: 
           
        
      
        - Much debate about 
          definitions of "resource" (SAM, W3C, ISO13250), which to use, 
          and stability of definition of in ISO 13250. Decision deferred until 
          next meeting. All TC members agreed to review SAM in the meantime.
 
       
      Meeting ended at that 
        point after 1h30 of debate, many members having to quit.  
        Decision to continue the discussion on next meeting, and to provide feedback 
        to the document editor (Steve Pepper) 
      3. Next meeting 
      Next IRC meeting scheduled 
        February 21th, 22:00 UTC 
        Time chosen 
        to be more gentle to Japanese and Californian members 
         
        Agenda : continued discussion of "Gentle Introduction" 
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