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Subject: [dita] MEETING MINUTES -- 06 February 2006 -- DITA Translation Subcommittee
MEETING MINUTES -- 06 February 2006 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE/Translation Subcommittee (Minutes taken by Don Day and JoAnn Hackos) Date: Tuesday, 06 February 2006 Time: 08:00am - 09:00am PT DITA Technical Committee website: - Public: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=dita - Members only: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/ - Wiki: http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/ Meeting Introduction and Goals DITA and Translation -- Organizational Meeting Thank you all for deciding to participate in the organizational meeting for what we hope becomes a valuable addition to the OASIS DITA Technical Committee activities. Here are some of the goals that have been in our discussions for the past two months at the OASIS DITA TC: 1) We are anxious, as you know, to develop an effective liaison with the W3C ITS activities so that both committee are engaged in providing for the needs of the information-development community from authoring through localization into the production of final deliverables in multiple languages. 2) We hope to establish guidelines that promote best practices for authoring, workflow, and tools that always information to move smoothly from original authors through translators and production specialists handling the intricacies of multiple languages and cultures. 3) We hope to build into existing specifications methods that will help vendors and service providers comply with DITA and translation-oriented standards. 4) And, perhaps most specifically, we hope to add a DITA to XLIFF tools to the Open Source so that content can move smoothly along the full development life cycle. ____________________________ Agenda for the Organizational Meeting * Introduce the participants JoAnn Hackos, Comtech, OASIS DITA TC, co-organizer of this meeting Don Day, IBM, OASIS DITA TC Chairperson and co-organizer of this meeting Charles Pau, IBM, Localization, involved in the IBM implementation of DITA and Translation, interested in the XLIFF open source tool Yves Savourel, Chair ITS WG W3C--constructs and guidelines for translation, I18N of XML content. DITA is of interest. Andrzej Zydron, CTO of XML-INTL, serves on W3C ITS, LISA Steering Cmte, OASIS XLIFF TC, OASIS Translation Web Svcs TC, LISA Globalization Metrics, demos of ITS standards, particularly xml:tm. Felix Sasaki, Team contact ITS WG, wants to discuss liaison relations. Gershon Joseph, consultant in Israeli market, has clients moving to XML content often with localization requirements, wants to streamline the translation workflow Tony Yevtushenko, Chair XLIFF TC, I18N, L10N, here to understand how to work more effectively to optimize our synergies, has implementation models around XLIFF to make us aware of. Rodolfo Raya, Heartsome. Supports many formats to XLIFF, has one for XLIFF/DITA already. Understands the value of a common solution for all to use. Interested in an OS solution for the DITA Toolkit. Sukumar Munshi solution architect for Lionbridge. Applying expertise to DITA. First commercial implementation of XLIFF, interested in interoperability of translation standards. Mark Ambrose, SDL--lot of customers with DITA interest, want to stay on the forefront and participate in discussions. Also introduced David Pooley and Richard Fletcher Patrick Klassen, Scriptware. DocZone is a hosted CMS--all customers can share content, style sheets, processes, DITA is a key standard, uses tools from XML Intl Chrisian Lieske, SAP company, business solutions--content engineering, works with different members on this call. Interested in DITA and its move into different languages. Bryan Schnabel, Tektronix, sent regrets for having mistaken the meeting time. Is very interested in taking part. *** Plan a time for future meetings General agreement on Mondays at this time, weekly for two months. JoAnn will send Outlook invitation. ***Goals for the DITA/ITS liaison subcommittee Don Day has two goals for liaison with W3C: provisioning for standards, and best practices Christian: advised on liaison requirements from W3C side (Don, get a note between Felix and Carol Geyer on formalizing the activity) Patent policy, for example. * Review and revise the goals (here are some key points to discuss) * Review of messages heard by the TC about DITA's scorecard Don's 4 items: Translatable attributes, @translate & @xml:lang, best practices for authors, tools, inline/block identification Rodolfo: Some elements are blocks that might appear in the middle of a sentence. Mark agrees on clearly separating these items. Andrjez points out the table created by Robert Anderson and Chris Wong that shows what is inline and not. Good to deprecate attribute content due to inflections. ITS looked at occurrence. Notes that "translate=no" is not used a great deal, but useful. Sukumar Munshi on @translate: decisions on who should specify this should inform on actual DTD specification. Don suggests best practices for specializers, Joann includes practices for editor/translation tool vendors. JoAnn suggests review of the block/inline elements for next meeting Wants to move quickly toward best practices for attributes *** Work of the TC and ITS to define update recommendations for DITA 1.1 and authoring best practices *** Feasibility of a DITA/XLIFF transform project Andrzej and Felix know of Sun, Schnabel, a third GPL license. Tony Jewtushenko will send the links to the related tools lists. Don's goals: specialization awareness and segmentation based on text analysis Andrzej--SRX as a technology. Would be willing to review these standards for the next meeting. Items not discussed because of time. For next meeting: * Coordination on messages to users and industry * Discussion of worldwide opportunity for DITA--are we now at the tipping point? How big is the pie we expect to divide up? * Enumerate a set of possible actions * Define priorities of these actions * Ask participants in the meeting to consider what role they would like to have in fulfilling the goals in preparation for the next meeting I know that this is an aggressive agenda. We'll do our best to keep on track and do as much as we can to make plans for the future. Thank you again for your willingness to help, JoAnn mentioned the white paper activity, encouraged committee review of its recommendations when it is ready in about a month. Next meeting: discuss existing set of standards, review Anderson's paper, consider test cases of DITA in different languages (particularly Arabic). Current draft of next DITA release? TC still working on 1.1 inputs-watch this space. DITA OT 1.2 coming out this week. Don Day and JoAnn Hackos
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