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Subject: RE: [dita] MEETING MINUTES -- 06 February 2006 -- DITA Translation Subcommittee
Hi everyone, I'm afraid I missed something. My apologies! Don, if you can send me the link to the minutes where the SC was voted/approved, the name of the chair(s)/secretary and either a charter or statement of work I can get a Kavi SC set up along with a mailing list. Glad to see some of the XLIFF folks on this list! Regards, Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: JoAnn Hackos [mailto:joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:00 PM > To: dita@lists.oasis-open.org; Andrzej Zydron; > bhertz@sdl.com; Bryan Schnabel; charles_pau@us.ibm.com; > christian.lieske@sap.com; dpooley@sdl.com; dond@us.ibm.com; > dschell@us.ibm.com; fsasaki@w3.org; rfletcher@sdl.com; > gershon@tech-tav.com; Jennifer Linton; JoAnn Hackos; > mambrose@sdl.com; patrickk@scriptware.nl; > Peter.Reynolds@lionbridge.com; ishida@w3.org; > rodolfo@heartsome.net; Sukumar.Munshi@lionbridge.com; > tony.jewtushenko@productinnovator.com; ysavourel@translate.com > Subject: [dita] MEETING MINUTES -- 06 February 2006 -- DITA > Translation Subcommittee > > MEETING MINUTES -- 06 February 2006 -- DITA TECHNICAL > COMMITTEE/Translation Subcommittee (Minutes taken by Don Day > and JoAnn Hackos) > Date: Tuesday, 06 February 2006 > Time: 08:00am - 09:00am PT > > DITA Technical Committee website: > - Public: > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=dita > - Members only: > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/ > - Wiki: http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/ > > > Meeting Introduction and Goals > DITA and Translation -- Organizational Meeting > > Thank you all for deciding to participate in the > organizational meeting for what we hope becomes a valuable > addition to the OASIS DITA Technical Committee activities. > > > Here are some of the goals that have been in our discussions > for the past two months at the OASIS DITA TC: > > > 1) We are anxious, as you know, to develop an effective > liaison with the W3C ITS activities so that both committee > are engaged in providing for the needs of the > information-development community from authoring through > localization into the production of final deliverables in > multiple languages. > > 2) We hope to establish guidelines that promote best > practices for authoring, workflow, and tools that always > information to move smoothly from original authors through > translators and production specialists handling the > intricacies of multiple languages and cultures. > > > 3) We hope to build into existing specifications methods that > will help vendors and service providers comply with DITA and > translation-oriented standards. > > 4) And, perhaps most specifically, we hope to add a DITA to > XLIFF tools to the Open Source so that content can move > smoothly along the full development life cycle. > > ____________________________ > > > Agenda for the Organizational Meeting > > * Introduce the participants > > JoAnn Hackos, Comtech, OASIS DITA TC, co-organizer of > this meeting > Don Day, IBM, OASIS DITA TC Chairperson and > co-organizer of this meeting > > Charles Pau, IBM, Localization, involved in the IBM > implementation of DITA and Translation, interested in the XLIFF > open source tool > > Yves Savourel, Chair ITS WG W3C--constructs and guidelines for > translation, I18N of XML content. DITA is of interest. > > Andrzej Zydron, CTO of XML-INTL, serves on W3C ITS, LISA > Steering Cmte, OASIS XLIFF TC, OASIS Translation Web > Svcs TC, LISA > Globalization Metrics, demos of ITS standards, > particularly xml:tm. > > Felix Sasaki, Team contact ITS WG, wants to discuss > liaison relations. > > Gershon Joseph, consultant in Israeli market, has clients moving > to XML content often with localization requirements, wants to > streamline the translation workflow > > Tony Yevtushenko, Chair XLIFF TC, I18N, L10N, here to understand > how to work more effectively to optimize our synergies, has > implementation models around XLIFF to make us aware of. > > Rodolfo Raya, Heartsome. Supports many formats to XLIFF, has > one for XLIFF/DITA already. Understands the value of a common > solution for all to use. Interested in an OS solution > for the DITA > Toolkit. > > Sukumar Munshi solution architect for Lionbridge. Applying > expertise to DITA. First commercial implementation of XLIFF, > interested in interoperability of translation standards. > > Mark Ambrose, SDL--lot of customers with DITA interest, want to > stay on the forefront and participate in discussions. Also > introduced David Pooley and Richard Fletcher > > Patrick Klassen, Scriptware. DocZone is a hosted > CMS--all customers can > share content, style sheets, processes, DITA is a key > standard, uses tools from XML Intl > > Chrisian Lieske, SAP company, business solutions--content > engineering, works with different members on this call. > Interested in DITA and its move into different languages. > > Bryan Schnabel, Tektronix, sent regrets for having mistaken the > meeting time. Is very interested in taking part. > > *** Plan a time for future meetings > > General agreement on Mondays at this time, weekly for two > months. JoAnn will send Outlook invitation. > > ***Goals for the DITA/ITS liaison subcommittee > > Don Day has two goals for liaison with W3C: provisioning for > standards, and best practices > > Christian: advised on liaison requirements from W3C side (Don, > get a note between Felix and Carol Geyer on formalizing the > activity) Patent policy, for example. > > * Review and revise the goals (here are some key points to discuss) > > * Review of messages heard by the TC about DITA's scorecard > > Don's 4 items: Translatable attributes, @translate & > @xml:lang, best practices for authors, tools, inline/block > identification > > Rodolfo: Some elements are blocks that might appear in the > middle of a sentence. > > Mark agrees on clearly separating these items. > > Andrjez points out the table created by Robert Anderson and > Chris Wong that shows what is inline and not. Good to > deprecate attribute content due to inflections. ITS looked at > occurrence. > Notes that "translate=no" is not used a great deal, but useful. > > Sukumar Munshi on @translate: decisions on who should specify > this should inform on actual DTD specification. Don suggests > best practices for specializers, Joann includes practices for > editor/translation tool vendors. > > JoAnn suggests review of the block/inline elements for next meeting > > Wants to move quickly toward best practices for attributes > > *** Work of the TC and ITS to define update recommendations for DITA > 1.1 and authoring best practices > > > *** Feasibility of a DITA/XLIFF transform project > > Andrzej and Felix know of Sun, Schnabel, a third GPL license. > Tony Jewtushenko will send the links to the related tools lists. > > Don's goals: specialization awareness and segmentation based > on text analysis > > Andrzej--SRX as a technology. Would be willing to review > these standards for the next meeting. > > Items not discussed because of time. For next meeting: > * Coordination on messages to users and industry > > * Discussion of worldwide opportunity for DITA--are we now at > the tipping point? How big is the pie we expect to divide up? > > * Enumerate a set of possible actions > > * Define priorities of these actions > > * Ask participants in the meeting to consider what role they > would like to have in fulfilling the goals in preparation for > the next meeting > > I know that this is an aggressive agenda. We'll do our best > to keep on track and do as much as we can to make plans for > the future. > > Thank you again for your willingness to help, > > JoAnn mentioned the white paper activity, encouraged > committee review of its recommendations when it is ready in > about a month. > > > Next meeting: discuss existing set of standards, review > Anderson's paper, consider test cases of DITA in different > languages (particularly Arabic). > > > Current draft of next DITA release? TC still working on 1.1 > inputs-watch this space. DITA OT 1.2 coming out this week. > > > Don Day and JoAnn Hackos >
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