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Subject: Groups - DITA TC Meeting Minutes 18 July 2023 uploaded
- From: Nancy Harrison<nharrison@infobridge-solutions.com>
- To: <dita@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 06:30:35 +0000 (UTC)
Submitter's message
ActionItems:
1. Dawn will check with Brianna on extent to which she's updated L&T for 2.0.
2. Scott and Eliot will start to update L&T files to work with 2.0 base.
3. Eliot will respond to dita-comment item on L&T from 24 May 2023.
4. Eliot will respond to dita-comment item on getting the latest draft spec, from 14 June 2023.
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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC
Tuesday, 18 July 2023
Recorded by Hancy Harrison
link to agenda for this meeting:
https://wiki.OASIS-open.org/dita/PreviousAgendas
Attendance:
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Robert Anderson, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Eliot Kimber, Zoe Lawson, Dawn Stevens, Frank Wegmann, Christina Rothwell, Leroy Steinbacher
Business
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1. Roll call
Regrets: none
2. Approve minutes from previous business meeting:
11 July 2023
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202307/msg00002.html (Harrison, 15 July 2023)
moved by Kris, 2nd by Scott, approved by TC
3. Announcements
- Christina will be joining as voting member as of next week.
4. Action items and volunteer tasks
[updates only; see agenda for complete list]
07 March 2023
Eliot: Look at his original e-mail about "Cascading attribute values" and consider @scope and @format. See also minutes/action items from 10 January 2023. COMPLETED
- Eliot; now that I've done this, which led to questions about 'how does it apply to direction & language?', I don't think I still have an action item, do I?
- Kris; I'll check, probably not.
Kris & Robert: Consider Eliot's latest e-mail about "Cascading attribute values" and consider where adjustments are need in regard to text and examples
06 June 2023:
Kris: Share DITA TC bookmarks
Eliot: Respond to dita-comment e-mail (https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita-comment/202304/msg00000.html)
- Kris; I worked on backlog; we'll discuss later in meeting
5. E-mails on dita-comment
a. DITA 2.0 Learning and Training Content specialization
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita-comment/202305/msg00001.html (kehua.chang@siemens.com, 24 May 2023)
- Kris; 1.3 L&T stuff is in our 2.0 repo; Scott and Eliot, will you take on task of updating L&T to 2.0?
- Eliot; yes, Dawn, did you have content to contribute?
- Dawn; yes, Brianna had done a bunch, will check with her.
***ActionItem: Dawn will check with Brianna on extent to which she's updated L&T for 2.0.
***ActionItem: Scott and Eliot will start to update L&T files to work with 2.0 base.
***ActionItem: Eliot will respond to dita-comment item on L&T from 24 May 2023.
b. is there a "DITA 2.0" homepage with links to the latest draft specification?
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita-comment/202306/msg00000.html (Christopher.Papademetrious@synopsys.com, 14 June 2023)
- Kris; we probably want to point him to the publicly acccesible pages for draft DITA spec and draft techcomm spec; can someone do that?
- Eliot; I can do that
- Scott; he's already gotten a PDF...
- Kris; but it's a specific PDF, not the page with the updated versions, which will always give him the latest one. If we give him the publicly accessible pages for those 2 PDFs, he can always get the updated versions.
- Eliot; what is the page?
- Kris; I go from the TC public front page -> documents -> drafts
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=70699&wg_abbrev=dita
for base
- Eliot; I can find the one for techcomm.
***ActionItem.: Eliot will respond to dita-comment item on getting the latest draft spec, from 14 June 2023.
6. DITA 2.0 backlog
DITA 2.0 Backlog
- Kris; for overview of content; primary question is; are these topics eneeded? I'll volunteer for abbrev forms because I'm working with Mayo's botched use of it. any other volunteers? especially for glossary ref?
- Eliot; I'll take that, along with gloss entry, gloss group, and glossgroup, but NOT the whole list of glossary ref elements.
Christina; I could do overview DITA topics.
- Kris; I'd like everyone to take the basic DITA stuff and see if we really need them. We still need overviews, but we need to reassess what should actually be in there.
- Robert; When I look at it, it appears to be original PR for when DITA was new. I still think having it makes sense, but it's not a requirement for 2.0; and in any case, is this the right content?
- Scott; and also, is this the appropriate location for it?
- Christina; it actually looks like 'concepts around using DITA', rather than the elements themselves, so maybe it should be in something called 'How DITA Works'?
- Robert; I don't think it's a problem to have a section like this, but I don't know if this is all correct.
- Leroy; I do think it needs to be in the spec, or else easliy linked to from spec.
- Christina; definitely, there should be a way to easily access this from spec.
- Leroy; what's the problem with keeping it in? looking at specs, if content moves from version to version, it can be a problem if it moves around in the spec.
- Robert; I think it's fine to leave it in, but it's written as a PR announcement for DITA, as if DITA is still brand new.
- Kris; 2.0 is a major release, and we've done a major overhaul for spec content; we need to do same thing with this. We haven't so far; the DITA contents section probably hasn't been touched since 1.2... Wrt overview of DITA maps, I overhauled that content for 1.2 and moved it into the section on DITA maps and their usage; we need to see if this is appropriate and how should we say it. e.g. some content should actually be single-sourced from our @ sections. Christina, I'd be glad to put your name next to DITA topics.
- Christina; I'll look at it with a fresh set of eyes; there's a lot of good stuff, but maybe it can use some work.
- Leroy; I'd like to work on this with you.
- Kris; if it would help to have me present, I'd be happy to be there.
- Kris; please everyone look at this stuff
- Leroy; I'm glad L&T will still be in 2.0.
- Kris; L&T will not be in 2.0, but we'll update it to so it supports 2.0. We just didn't have the resources to work on it.
12 noon ET close
-- Ms. Nancy Harrison
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