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Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] oXygen 9 beta with WYSIWYG-like editing supportfor DocBook
Elliotte Harold <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>, 2007-10-03 04:25 -0400: > However I do think that if the user just wants to do simple bolding and > italicizing of text, then they just want to do presentation-based, > non-semantic markup. And indeed they probably do want that, and that's OK. > But if so they should be using Word, not DocBook. I won't disagree with you about that. I think there are plenty of cases of users who think they want to author in DocBook but who might be better off using something else. But for better or worse there does seem to be market demand for WYSIWYG DocBook editing, so it's hard for me to find fault with the vendor of what is a very good structural editor for XML and DocBook wanting to add WYSIWYG capabilities to try to respond to that market need. And I can imagine a scenario of a representative from oXygen going in to do a product demo of that editor and having one of the first questions from the customer be, How do I make things bold and italic? Given that, I'm not surprised at all they they chose to avoid the need to explain, "Well, in DocBook the markup element that causes text to be rendered in italic -- across all output formats supported by the DocBook XSL stylesheets and all other common DocBook processing applications is called emphasis, and the one for causing text to be rendered in bold is also emphasis -- with (the hack of using) the 'role' attribute having its value set to 'bold'." If somebody wants to argue that a UI should not include features/ buttons for italic/emphasis or bold/strong-emphasis at all, then that would seem to me to make a lot more sense. But emphasis in DocBook amounts to meaning "markup for any content that you want to be output in italic but which does not have any other semantics associated with it", so it might just as well been called italic to begin with. --Mike -- Michael(tm) Smith http://people.w3.org/mike/ http://sideshowbarker.net/
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