[17:54] Svante Schubert: Greetings!
Time of meeting:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2023&month=11&day=13&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=155The call counts towards voter eligibility.
1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights
[18:04] Patrick: Quorum - yes, 100%
2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda
[18:06] Patrick: Agenda - approved by consent
3. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 30 October 2023 -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202310/msg00043.html[18:06] Patrick: Minutes of 30 Oct. 2023 - approved by consent
4. History of ISO ODF Release - Does the TC agree to withdrawal of ODF 1.0 and ODF 1.1 in ISO form?
[18:13] Patrick: Regina - so long as available from OASIS - doesn't need to come from ISO
[18:13] Patrick: Svante, ISO usually only provides the latest version
[18:14] Patrick: Francis, ISO would be happy to allow ODF 1.2 to remain alongside ODF 1.3
[18:15] Svante Schubert: Regina: It would be nice to have the ODF 1.2 version at ISO, but it is not necessary.
[18:16] Svante Schubert: We all agree on Regina's view.
[18:17] Svante Schubert: Francis will give a formal request to Jamie (OASIS)
5. Additional ISO Requesting - Adoption of ODF 1.3 release to DIN A4
[18:19] Svante Schubert: Francis: One of the requests from ISO is that we adopt our page-size format from page size to DIN A4 size.
[18:19] Svante Schubert: Francis: But they would not necessarily require it in the content.
[18:25] Svante Schubert: Regina: It should be easy to switch to DIN A4 without changing the page break when we make the margin right and left a bit smaller.
[18:25] Svante Schubert: US sizes are based on the imperial system, so 'Letter' size is 8.5 by 11 inches, whereas the equivalent A4 size in inches is 8.27 by 11.7 inches
[18:28] Regina Henschel: It should be easy to switch to DIN A4 without changing the _line_ break when we make the margin right and left a bit smaller.
[18:30] Svante Schubert: We might want to adjust the margins of ODF 1.3 in a way that there is no page break, but this might not be in accordance with ISO requirements - that we might not all know.
[18:30] Svante Schubert: For ODF 1.4 we should change to DIN A4 and make it look nice as well!
[18:33] Svante Schubert: Francis might ask along the JTC1 meeting in Berlin for templates they are using and if the ODF 1.3 change with larger margins would suit them.
[18:33] Regina Henschel: Increase the top and/or bottom margins for ODF 1.3 so that the page break remains the same.
[18:36] Svante Schubert: Francis: Will talk informally with the people of ISO at the JTC1 meeting again, to get an understanding if this approach would be possible
[18:37] Svante Schubert: And ask for their ideal margins to be applied on the next ODF 1.4 version
6. Making ISO ODF Releases free available:
Is it possible and should we ask for a non-profit release of our ISO ODF specifications?
ODF 1.0 - ISO/IEC 26300:2006 Â - CHF 208 -
https://www.iso.org/standard/43485.htmlODF 1.2 - ISO/IEC 26300-1:2015 - CHF 208 -
https://www.iso.org/standard/66363.html[18:39] Regina Henschel:
http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/index.html[18:39] Regina Henschel: 26300
[18:40] Svante Schubert: The ISO paper version of 263ÃÅÃÅ has to be paid, the PDF version is free available!
[18:41] Svante Schubert: Is there any extra effort necessary that ODF 1.3 PDFs are still available?
[18:42] Svante Schubert: Francis: Principle criteria: It must be freely available from the original committer already. And this criteria is unchanged
7. Last week's review:
OFFICE-4129: Addition to style:vertical-rel Allow area above page content area
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4129 - all changes correct
8. Last week's review:
JIRA Issue is really bad to track changes from the email list.
Is there an easier way to identify and check the changes (having some 4 eyes principle in an early manner).
[18:45] Svante Schubert: This is in general an editor discussion. Francis and I will discuss this in a spontaneous f2f meeting in Berlin.
9. Status of ODF 1.4 Release:
What is our roadmap of the ODF 1.4 release?
[18:47] Svante Schubert: Editors continued the editorial work. There are more comments from Alfred on the draft.
[18:48] Svante Schubert: Regina: Is there a draft version possible to be published before x-mas?
[18:48] Svante Schubert: Patrick: He is optimistic about that!
10. Do we accept the following new feature and what will be the target:
ÂOFFICE-4138: add source paragraph style to table of figures/objects/tables
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https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4138[18:53] Svante Schubert: Regina asked for test documents and we will postpone this matter.
11. Do we accept the following new feature and what will be the target:
OFFICE-4130: "use-slide-background" fill for shapes in legacy presentation formats
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4130[18:57] Svante Schubert: Postponed till next week - perhaps someone comes up with an idea -> bad idea to use a deprecated node for a new feature
12. The query "project = OFFICE AND status = New AND fixVersion is EMPTY" shows 2 Features and 2 Tasks with 3 Subtasks
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20status%20%3D%20New%20AND%20fixVersion%20is%20EMPTYWhat shall we do with the tasks from that query?
[18:59] Svante Schubert:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4135[19:04] Regina Henschel: Accept the issue -> Open, fix version ODF later
[19:05] Svante Schubert: I would second this
[19:05] Svante Schubert: approved by consent
[19:07] Svante Schubert: Meeting adjourned