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Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] Comments on UBL
David, Back in the early days of XML/edi - we showed how you can minimize the on-the-wire information by using referential XML fragments - so for example - why send your customer information - if you have already sent that same information 1000 times already this month? Surely all you need is the order items lines fragment... duh! However - smarter brains of course knew much better than us - and now we have schema bloat - something that we exactly cautioned against from our edi and sgml experience. We also showed how you should be able to easily "glue" chunks of well-formed XML together to create on-the-fly transactions (CCTS anyone?) with parent elements creating context for the chunks inside them - but again smarter brains insisted that everything should have namespaces plastered all over it - more bloat - and more self-defeating markup. Oh well - back to the drawing board - again... ; -) Interestingly there has been a revolt in FIXml circles - where they have gone back to highly optimized small xml packets... but only after they bloodied their noses on huge mega-transactions that upped their bandwidth needs by 500%. DW -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Comments on UBL From: david.lyon@preisshare.net Date: Tue, November 14, 2006 6:12 pm To: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org Quoting Stephen Green <stephen_green@bristol-city.gov.uk>: > The size factor seems to be exacerbated somewhat > by the number of attributes in many of the datatypes. The size factor itself is not the issue.. it's that you get it all in your face upfront. For example, it isn't neccessary to show all the acknowledgments for every document since it's likely that an acknowledgment would be very similar for all documents. imho it looks clumsy. > If I were implementing UBL today I'd want to allow > for all these options Maybe you should start trying to implement it. Get some experience on the coal face. :-) David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ubl-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: ubl-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org
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