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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 17 January 2024 15:00UTC


Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 17 January 2024 15:00UTC

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2024-01-17T15:00:00

Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

Participation

 

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Peter Borresen

Andrea Caccia

Paul Donohoe

Sander Fieten

Cecile Guasch

Yves Jordan

Ole Madsen

 

Pacific call:

 

Todd Albers

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

James Bryce Clark (observer)

Kees Duvekot

Ken Holman

Levine Naidoo

 

Referencing the specification

 

One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.4

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

-  OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

The canonical 2.4 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/

The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/

The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

-  http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

-  http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

 

Standing items

 

Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

None

 

Wikipedia page

Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language

 

Review of Pacific call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00005.html

 

Review of Atlantic call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00003.html

 

Membership status review

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

 

New member orientation information:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

 

Voting status is determined by the following:

-  existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

-  non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

-  members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

 

Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

 

-  Todd Albers

o Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups

-  Kenneth Bengtsson

o  Chair OASIS BDXR TC, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

-  Peter Borresen

o DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7

-  Andrea Caccia

-  Paul Donohoe

-  Kees Duvekot

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie­platform e-factureren

-  Sander Fieten

o Cochair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC, Cochair OASIS BDXR TC

-  Ken Holman

o Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC

-  Yves Jordan

-  Levine Naidoo

o Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML

 

Members gaining voting status after this meeting:

-  Ole Madsen

 

TC Vitality Check

The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.

Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.

 

UBL 2.4

 

Statement of use received from Semantic: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202312/msg00007.html

 

UBL 2.5

 

Deprecation Policy

 

The TC has approved a UBL Deprecation Policy version 1.0 available here:

-  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71497&wg_abbrev=ubl (PDF)

-  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71496&wg_abbrev=ubl (ODT)

 

Publishing tools

 

Implement deprecation support in the UBL tools and publishing environment.

 

Erlend has presented a strawman proposal for a YAML-format for documenting 2.5 work: https://github.com/klakegg/oasis-ubl-model. Agreed that the functionality added by a structured format adds value, not least when adding the complexity of deprecated components. A “front end” layer will be needed for business users to maintain the files.

 

An updated spreadsheet model has been made with changes documented here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f0yyWMLK9wAWEjEKgsoXT7eov9h5bx6qxROBZP_qu7M/.

 

Ken will work on a script to populate the “Last changed” column with pre-2.5 changes.

 

Shall we manage a single master version of spreadsheets, or individual SC versions that need to be merge later on? Agreed to work on a single “master” spreadsheet and iron out any conflicting changes as we progress. Kenneth will send an update to the SCs.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kees.

 

Semantic library review

 

Documents reviewed by the TC:

 

-  ApplicationResponse

-  AttachedDocument

-  DocumentStatus

-  DocumentStatusRequest

 

Identified that ApplicationResponse, DocumentStatus, and EnquiryResponse are interchangeable, and that the same goes for DocumentStatusRequest and Enquiry. Currently no one is aware of any actual use of Enquiry and EnquiryResponse. One option could be to sharpen up the definitions of ApplicationResponse and DocumentStatus, and deprecate the use of Enquiry and EnquiryStatus. Kenneth will open a JIRA ticket to track work, and will reach out to possible users (Oriol, for example).

 

AttachedDocument: It was planned to be used in OIOUBL but was never actually implemented. No known implementations. Functionality could be achieved through other mechanisms. Kenneth will open a JIRA ticket and Cecile will reach out to the European Commission to ask for the status of its use.

 

Kees suggested moving the following into the post-award SC:

 

-  Forecast

-  ForecastRevision

-  InstructionForReturns

-  InventoryReport

-  ItemInformationRequest

-  ProductActivity

-  RetailEvent

-  StockAvailabilityReport

-  TradeItemLocationProfile

 

Agreed to review supplementary components at our next face-to-face meeting, i.e., the XML attributes listed here: https://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/UBL-2.4.html#T-UBL-UNQUALIFIED-DATA-TYPES

 

Can we make a tool that users can run in their local environments to create a report about the use of supplementary components?

 

Specification review

 

Divide specification into multiple parts. Aim is to create a multipart specification.

 

Kenneth will identify the normative parts of the prose specification and create a first draft.

 

Workgroup participants: Kees, Kenneth, Levine, and Paul.

 

JSON syntax binding

 

Develop specification for a UBL JSON syntax binding.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kenneth.

 

Subcommittee reports

 

UBL Post-award

 

Semantic library review: Kenneth will follow up with link to master spreadsheets to be used for the review.

 

UBL Pre-award

 

Semantic library review: Kenneth will follow up with link to master spreadsheets to be used for the review. Cecile will send a list of change requests and observations for the semantic library review.

 

Cecile announced that she is leaving the TC and stepping down as subcommittee chair since her work focused has changed. The TC will look for a new chairperson for the pre-award SC.

 

UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

 

Semantic library review: Kenneth will follow up with link to master spreadsheets to be used for the review.

 

Launch of public feedback period for first eFTI draft implementing act, see: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/202310/msg00000.html. The requirement model has been published. The TSC will convene to discuss how to reply.

 

Organisation Master Data Subcommittee

 

Semantic library review: Kenneth will follow up with link to master spreadsheets to be used for the review.

 

Cecile announced that she is leaving the TC and stepping down as subcommittee chair since her work focused has changed.

 

Payments and Finance SC

 

Semantic library review: Kenneth will follow up with link to master spreadsheets to be used for the review.

 

TC Liaisons

 

CEN TCs 434 and 440

 

Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.

 

OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.

 

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1

 

Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html

 

Last year’s SC 32 meeting was held on June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Jamie will follow up with SC 32.

 

ISO TC 323 (WG5)

 

Cecile is unfortunately leaving the TC and won’t be able to serve as liaison officer. Andrea will follow up and report on the status of PCDS and report back to the TC if there is still a need for a liaison.

 

Subcommittee conference calls

 

-  Subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.

 

TC conference call schedule

 

Face-to-face meeting

 

Time and venue for next face-to-face meeting?

 

Spring meeting:

 

-  Budapest

o Possibility to be hosted by the MSZT (Hungarian standardization body)

-  May 27-30, 2024

o Craft Conference will be held the same week, May 30-31 (https://craft-conf.com/2024)

o XML Prague is the following week, June 6-8 (https://www.xmlprague.cz)

 

Fall meeting:

 

-  Invitation from Logius to meet in The Hague

-  Dates? For example, after Declarative Amsterdam, for example November 11-14 2024?

 

Call schedule

 

2024-01-23/2024-01-24

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-01-30/2024-01-31

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-02-06/2024-02-07

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-02-13/2024-02-14

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-02-20/2024-02-21

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-02-27/2024-02-28

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

TC calendar

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

 

iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50

 

Other business

 

The TC extends a sincere thank you to Cecile for her years of service and dedication to UBL and wish her best of luck in her new endeavors. Her contributions have been invaluable, and she will be greatly missed.

 



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