RE: [office] Re: Agenda for ODF TC Teleconference, 11 December 2023

["Francis Cave" <francis@franciscave.com>]

Hi Svante

 

Please could we add OFFICE-4104 to Mondayâs agenda? One of the Microsoft developers, via Alfred, has pointed out that, not only had we not swapped the values âtrueâ and âfalseâ in Part 3, 19.506 style:num-letter-sync (the bulleted items had been swapped, but not the values â now done), but no change has been made to the corresponding property in 20.232 style:num-letter-sync. Should the swap be made there as well?

 

Kind regards,

 

Francis

 

 

 

From: office@lists.oasis-open.org <office@lists.oasis-open.org> On Behalf Of Svante Schubert
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 12:47 PM
To: Francis Cave <francis@franciscave.com>
Cc: office@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [office] Re: Agenda for ODF TC Teleconference, 11 December 2023

 

Hi Francis,

 

Yes, I agree, your amendments should certainly be added to the agenda.

In the meeting agenda that I will paste in the chat on Monday,I will expand item #4 and insert a new item #6 - unless you suggest otherwise a different agenda position (but you may do this also on Monday ahead of the meeting).

We may define the details when we discuss the agenda in detail during item #2. 

 

I like the new way of handing the TC agenda by sending a draft agenda right after the TC meeting and gathering more items during the week!

 

Kind regards,

Svante

 

 

 

On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 13:31, Francis Cave <francis@franciscave.com> wrote:

Hi Svante

 

I would propose to add the following item to the agenda for our next meeting, if there is time:

 

• OFFICE-4112 â specifically to discuss my comment added on 28/Nov/23, proposing a change to Part 4, Section 7.4 âYear 1583â.

 

Regarding item 4, I can report briefly on my review of Github open editorial issues #27, #35, #37 and #49:

 

• Issue #27 requires further editorial discussion, but need not involve the TC as a whole.
• Issue #35 can be closed when my comment added to OFFICE-4112 has been resolved.
• Issue #37 can be closed, now that I have corrected the layout of Appendix G for ODF 1.4.
• Issue #49 requires further work on the process for generating schema text (the grey boxes in Part 3). It raises the question of whether the TC would wish to approve a Working Draft (simple majority vote) before the generated schema text is added, or after it has been added, and whether errors and omissions in the generated schema text are acceptable at this stage.

 

Kind regards,

 

Francis

 

 

 

From: office@lists.oasis-open.org <office@lists.oasis-open.org> On Behalf Of Svante Schubert
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 7:59 AM
To: office@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [office] Re: Agenda for ODF TC Teleconference, 11 December 2023

 

Dear TC members,

 

I suggest two minor updates to the agenda.

 

 

1) The issue of Alfred seems to be in fact three issues that might be a single one! 

We might swap our issues, Alfred, if you like? I like it as I also stumbled over this definition problem in the past.

 

Therefore, as the query #6 was without content, the three are now part of #6 

 

6. Working down the query
"project = OFFICE AND fixVersion = ODF-Next AND proposal is not EMPTY AND  type = Bug AND status != CLOSED AND status != Deferred" - 5 to 7 bugs in total (but 2 discussed last call)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20%20type%20%3D%20Bug%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred

Presenter: Alfred
Three issues being one?

OFFICE-3786: Part 1, 19.686 table:operator has no definition for empty/non-empty cell
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3786
Comment points to: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3768

OFFICE-3787: Part 2 uses "empty cell" and "cell is empty" - normalize on "empty cell"
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3787
Comment points to: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3768

Question: Possible to combine them to one - mark two duplicate - and set to OFFICE-LATER?

 

 

2) After combining these issues the bug query is empty and I have added a new query for Improvement as point #10:

 

10. TC members are invited to pick an additional issue from our next working list (switch to IMPROVEMENT)

For instance taken from the query
"project = OFFICE AND fixVersion = ODF-Next AND proposal is not EMPTY AND  type = Improvement AND status != CLOSED AND status != Deferred" - in total 17
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4141?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20%20type%20%3D%20Improvement%20%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred
and present it to the group! 

 

Kind regards,

Svante

 

 

On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 at 19:51, Svante Schubert <svante.schubert@gmail.com> wrote:

Greetings!

The agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2023-12-11

Time of meeting: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2023&month=12&day=11&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=241

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1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

3. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 04 December 2023 - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00002.html

4. Editor's work review: Update on ODF 1.4 editing progress sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o

 

5. Status & Discussion on our upcoming release to OASIS (planned after this meeting before ODF tooling change on the 14 December)

6. Working down the query
"project = OFFICE AND fixVersion = ODF-Next AND proposal is not EMPTY AND  type = Bug AND status != CLOSED AND status != Deferred" - 5 to 7 bugs in total (but 2 discussed last call)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20%20type%20%3D%20Bug%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred

7. Presenter: Alfred
OFFICE-3787: Part 2 uses "empty cell" and "cell is empty" - normalize on "empty cell"
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3787
Comment points to: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3768

8. Presenter: Regina
OFFICE-3841: The color mode "Watermark" makes images pale, not transparent
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841

9. Presenter: Svante
OFFICE-3955: No default declared for chart:data-label-series boolean attribute
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3955

10. Presenter: Svante
OFFICE-4090: style:use-window-font-color missing a definition of "window foreground color"
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4090

11. Adjournment.