The UBL Liaison Subcommittee met by phone on Monday 1 December 2003. Meeting Logistics: 07h00 - 08h00 Monday 12/1 in San Francisco 15h00 - 16h00 Monday 12/1 in London 23h00 - 24h00 Monday 12/1 in Hong Kong U.S. domestic toll-free number: (866)545-5198 Int. access/caller paid number: (865)521-8904 Access code: 3470093 Note that this is not our regular call number. Agenda: 1. Report on UBL 1.0 Beta 2. 1.0 Beta Implementation Subcommittee 3. Planning for UBL reports at the ebXML Asia Committee meeting 4. Other calendar review and speaker planning 5. UBL 1.0 localization 6. UBL TC meeting schedule 7. LSC meeting schedule 8. Other business Meeting participants: Jon Bosak (UBL Liason SC chair) Y Anne Hendry (Secretary) Y Liaisons: Mark Crawford (UN/CEFACT ATG and ASC X12) Y Suresh Damodaran (RosettaNet) Y Bill French (EIDX) - John Hervey (NACS) - Doug Jones (RosettaNet BARD) - Kris Ketels (SWIFT) - Ram Kumar (OASIS CIQ TC) - Thomas Lee (ebXML Asia) Y Richard Mader (ARTS) - Garret Minakawa (OAG) Y Michael Nguyen (ITSC) Y Dave Nurse (HL7) - Sue Probert (UN/CEFACT TBG) Y Jouko Salonen (OASIS eGov TC) - Ray Seddigh (XBRL) - Robert Shanbaum (VCA) Y Leon Shiman (UIG) - Alan Stitzer (ACORD) - There is not a quorum present. Anne is taking meeting notes. 1. Report on UBL 1.0 Beta We have released UBL 1.0 Beta Committee Draft. This release consists of normative document schemas, a library of reusable components, scenarios based on these schemas, UML diagrams, documentation, ASN.1 schemas and more. We scheduled this Beta period to give developers a chance to implement UBL and give us feedback for the final release. For submitting comments on this release we have a couple of methods available. Since OASIS no longer supports the comment list all comments that would have gone to that list now come through a form which is accessed on the web site ('Submit a Comment' button on the TC web page). That comment alias is monitored by several groups. You may also send comments directly to the Library Content SC Editor. Liaison input will still be taken through the Liaison Subcommittee. The Beta period will last almost 3 months, from now until mid-February. 2. 1.0 Beta Implementation Subcommittee As stated, this release was intended to promote implementations to prove the viability, stability, and quality of UBL 1.0. To that end we have created a separate subcommittee to encourage and aid implemenations by providing a forum for sharing information on implementation issues and best practices. There is also a new OASIS alias being set up: ubl-dev. This alias is intended to be a discussion forum for ubl developers. The alias should be available by the end of this week. 3. Planning for UBL reports at the ebXML Asia Committee meeting Thomas will be attending the ebXML Asia Committee Meeting in Japan commencing this Thursday. The messages we'd like to have given there are that UBL 1.0 Beta has been published and that the schemas are stable. It would also be good to mention the formation of the CNLSC and JPLSC, which should be of interest to many there. Jon will also forward to Thomas the reporrt from Jon's attendance of the MOU Management Group meeting. Thomas will give this report at the ebXML Asia meeting. 4. Other calendar review and speaker planning - Jon gave a presentation remotely to the Electronics Industry Data Association (EIDX) in November. This association, a section of CompTIA, is devoted to the development of ebusiness standards for the electronics industry. There is representation from RosettaNet and OAG. Jon has been elected to a two-year term on their Board of Governors. - Sue attended the TBG 17 meeting in November. There is still much work to be done, but this will require some liaison interaction. At present there is no official submisstion from UBL to TBG 17 for harmonization. Stig Korsgaard is now officially the Chair of TBG 17. He will contact Jon to create an official liaison from UBL to TBG 17. The UBL submission is expected to join other first submissions. Both Stig, Garret, and Sue are members of both UBL and TBG 17, so there is ample opportunity for communication. Stig would be a good candidate for Liaison to UBL since he already sits on several of the UBL Subcommittees. Sue offered to help in the preparation of the submission. - Jon attended the IEC ISO ITU UN/ECE eBusiness MoU Management Group meetint. This group manages coordination between IEC, ITU, ISO, and UN/ECE. UBL has been on the agenda for 2 years. OASIS and OAG are user organizations. UBL is maintaining strict adherence to CCTS and working with UN/CEFACT, especially TBG 17. - OAG and UBL are two syntactic representations of the same basic semanticcs. Where they differ is in scope and governance. There is no competition here, just a matter of appropriate marketing. They have different design goals, and hopefully over next few months those design goal differences can be expressed in such a way that it can be used in presentations by both organizations. RosettaNet is not represented in the MoU MG, but should be, since this is the body that governs the coordination of large standards bodies such as ITU, ISO, UN/CEFACT, OASIS, and the like. - We have no one to attend the X12 meeting in Seattle in February as Mark won't be able to attend. - Jon will not be able to attend the next MoU MG meeting on 22-23 April in Geneva and the UBL Plenary in Hong Kong. Sue may be able. - There is a W3C AC meeting right after UBL May in NY, 16-18 May, that may preclude Mark and Eduardo's attendance at the UBL Plenary. 5. UBL 1.0 localization Two new Localization Subcommittees have been formed: Japanese Localization Subcommittee Chinese Localization Subcommittee OASIS does support multi-byte encoding and is setting up mail lists and web pages for these subcommittees. Jon announced these new subcommittees at the MoU MG meeting. 6. UBL TC meeting schedule The TC meeting schedule for 2004 was published to the list after the last Plenary (November 7). It is: 23 - 27 February in washington D.C. hosted by LMI 10 - 14 May in Hong Kong, hosted by CECID 16 - 20 August in Copenhagen hosted by the Danish Bankers Association 1 - 5 November in San Francisco hosted by Sun 7. LSC meeting schedule The next meeting will be January 12 at the same time: 7am PT, 11pm Hong Kong. If we continue to get consistent represenation from Asia on this call we may once again split the schedule. We may also consider moving to an evening Europe schedule, which would make the meeting a morning meeting for Hong Kong, Japan, Australia. This will be discussed in next week's meeting. 8. Other business New subcommittees: Besides the three new subcommittees listed above there is also a new subcommitee to handle the design of code list support for UBL. Announcements will be forthcoming from OASIS on all 4 of these new SCs. Comments to UBL: RosettaNet had given comments to UBL but are not sure of the disposition of those comments. There was some informal response, but nothing official. It appears as though there are still some schema level incompatibilities. This should be addressed. Jon and Suresh will work on finding additional resources for a UBL -> Rosetta mapping. We could begin an RN program or an EIDX program. We need a quick analysis of what needs to be changed in the schemas in order to get this in before February. Action Items ------------ 20031201-01: Jon and Suresh work on getting resources for UBL-RN mapping. 20031201-02: All forward to your groups the UBL release announcement from Jon.