Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC Tuesday, 23 August 2011 Recorded by Nancy Harrison Quorum was present Regrets: Tom Magliery, Chris Nitchie, Adrian Warman Don requested a scribe; Nancy Harrison volunteered; I will try it out for a few weeks and see if I'm willing to take on the job on a more permanent basis Don moved that the minutes of the previous meeting (URL below) be approved. Joann seconded; minutes were approved by acclamation 1. First item on agenda was a discussion of the proposal for a Dita for Programmers SC; since Lisa Dyer, the proposer, wasn't at the meeting, the item was postponed until she can attend. 2. DITA 1.3 proposals We returned to #13041. Eliot had sent mail the day before that suggested one way to address his goal for this, but Michael still felt that the objective was already met within the features defined by 1.2. After a good deal of discussion, Eliot asked that Michael send email to the group describing the mechanism he would use to accomplish that goal, with specific examples, so that he could understand Michael's position. Michael agreed to do so, and the item was tabled until next week. Dick Hamilton brought up the issue of dealing with filtering/flagging in addressing the proposal; Michael said that his description/example won't address that issue, but will explain why the issue doesn't need to be addressed, in the context of explaining how current methods are extensible to accomplish Eliot's goals. =============== 13042 - proposal to add a new common attribute "objid" for holding system-specific "object identifiers" for elements. Eliot explained the need to have such an Id available for content going in and out of a CMS, or even across multiple CMS's. Don, Michael Bosek, Thilo, and Robert A. mentioned some other use cases where this would be valuable, from the authoring, the translation, and the tool vendor perspective. Kris Eberlein moved to accept, seconded by Michael Priestley, accepted by acclamation. 13043 - We returned to discussion of this, which we hadn't quite completed the week before. This is analogous to the 'topic-nesting module' proposal 13037. However, discussion brought up the point that implementing this in a similar way, by adding a domain for foreign data, would be backwards incompatible. Eliot therefore withdrew the proposal and suggested that declaration of foreign data as a domain be addressed by defining a best practice, rather than by changing the architecture. Proposal has been withdrawn. 13044 - This proposal is necessary for enabling a full set of content within metadata. Since %ph; allows almost all inline elements, it's not a really stringent constraint, just an annoying one. There was general agreement with this opinion. Kris moved the proposal, Robert seconded, accepted by acclamation 13046 - We began looking at this proposal, but realized that folks needed to be brought up to date on the issue. Eliot agreed to resend the mail thread referenced in the proposal description. In his follow-up mail, he indicated that after reviewing the 1.2 discussion of @href for , he came to the conclusion that the proposal was based on an incorrect assumption, and decided he didn't feel strongly enough about the issue to pursue it.