OASIS Open

[15:08] Martin Pain (IBM): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-automation/event.php?event_id=37640

[15:09] John Arwe (IBM): scribe: John Arwe

[15:09] Martin Pain (IBM): Attending:  Florian Georg (IBM)
 John Arwe (IBM)
 Martin Pain (IBM)
 Umberto Caselli(IBM)

[15:09] John Arwe (IBM): topic: Approval of last week's minutes

[15:10] Martin Pain (IBM): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-automation/event.php?event_id=37622

[15:10] John Arwe (IBM): (URL on the calendar entry today - in future, once wiki there, link will be there as well)

[15:10] John Arwe (IBM): Minutes accepted unanimously

[15:10] John Arwe (IBM): topic: Vote for joining OSLC Member Section

[15:11] John Arwe (IBM): Reminder, voting closes today

[15:11] John Arwe (IBM): topic: Contributions from open-services.net OSLC Automation Working Group

[15:12] John Arwe (IBM): Martin has posted snapshots of current versions of specs and scenarios in doc repo.  Easier to read original URLs, but the snapshots keep clear what it is we're accepting.

[15:13] John Arwe (IBM): Unanimous agreement to accept all the contributed documents

[15:13] John Arwe (IBM): topic: Review of contributed scenarios

[15:14] John Arwe (IBM): Most of those present already familiar with them from the OSLC Automation WG.

[15:14] John Arwe (IBM): Q: for 3.0 is the intent to add new scenarios or only to refine those present?

[15:15] John Arwe (IBM): Martin: whichever the WG prefers.  if people have new ones, we'd certainly discuss them.  I personally have some that I may bring in.

[15:16] John Arwe (IBM): Florian: so we are free to submit a proposal?  and then discuss, and WG either accept or defers?

[15:16] John Arwe (IBM): Martin: yes

[15:17] John Arwe (IBM): Florian: so I'd put together what for a proposal?

[15:18] John Arwe (IBM): John: maybe we should talk about the process to bring in a new scenario, given that someone wishes to.

[15:19] Martin Pain (IBM): Core collects use cases like this https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/DelegatedUIUseCases

[15:19] John Arwe (IBM): Martin: initial discussion could be at various levels of detail.  e.g. some people like to come in with just a verbal description at first to see if others agree that it's in approximately the right area, and if the WG believes it is, then refine it.

[15:20] John Arwe (IBM): Martin: Also fine if you come in with a scenario on wiki partially/fully described, or a document with the equivalent.  Use email list or meeting to socialize it.

[15:23] John Arwe (IBM): ...assumption is that we'll be agile in our approach.  Doc store seems harder than other options, so perhaps start with wiki and/or email list.

[15:25] John Arwe (IBM): Martin: summarized the backlog from Automation 2.1

[15:26] John Arwe (IBM): ... agents/workers: less interest in OSLC WG, belief that OSLC Automation 2.0 was usable as-is.  Martin has since observed some cases where implementations wanted to intercept those comm paths to scale up/down

[15:27] John Arwe (IBM): ...core v3 alignment: most likely to matter here, since Core 3 work is happening in the Core TC.  Not sure what we have to do for that aside from saying we'll re-use it.

[15:28] Martin Pain (IBM): http://open-services.net/wiki/automation/Automation-Scenarios-V3/

[15:28] John Arwe (IBM): ...notification: certain amt of interest, but not much in the way of existing stds

[15:29] Martin Pain (IBM): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-automation/download.php/52631/Automation%20scenarios%20backlog.zip

[15:30] John Arwe (IBM): ... OrchestrationLifecycle Workflow (sometimes called chaining): those most interested left Automation 2.0 WG

[15:30] John Arwe (IBM): topic: Call for new use cases and scenarios

[15:30] John Arwe (IBM): See https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/SpecWriterHandbook#UseCases.26Requirements for suggested use case format

[15:32] John Arwe (IBM): ...that's what Core TC is using as a format.  We could do it our own unique way, but until we have some concrete reason to differ let's be consistent with what Core is doing.  And if we do vary, we'll tell Core why that's a good thing.

[15:32] anonymous morphed into Lonnie (Sodius)

[15:34] John Arwe (IBM): topic: Agree time and date for next meetings

[15:34] John Arwe (IBM): ...and frequency

[15:36] John Arwe (IBM): Martin: propose a poll to choose day/times; will be somewhat restricted by having both Europe/Israeli and US west coast members

[15:37] Lonnie (Sodius): regrets: my Skype is acting up. Usual morning hiccups with VoIP A/V services. Will restart apps.

[15:38] John Arwe (IBM): Martin: will set up and send poll.  hoped 1 week for startup would help keep things moving.

[15:40] Lonnie (Sodius): <-- is quite slow today. Nevertheless, I now am on the chat and on audio.

[15:41] John Arwe (IBM): based on those present, unanimous consensus to meet every 2 week until we have a larger backlog.

[15:45] John Arwe (IBM): Next week's topic expected to be any scenarios proposed.

[15:46] John Arwe (IBM): Q: meeting length ... unanimous consensus to schedule for 2 hours for now, adjust later if needed

[15:47] Lonnie (Sodius): Quickly for me, my CV is at http://www.linkedin.com/in/lonnievanzandt/ I will find a paragraph to paste into this chat.

[15:48] John Arwe (IBM): Martin: time/day of next meeting will be based on the poll.

[15:48] John Arwe (IBM): no further business?

[15:48] John Arwe (IBM): adjourned

[15:49] Lonnie (Sodius)[edited]: As Chief Architect at No Magic, I was a liaison between the Customers, the Users, the Engineering Teams, the Marketing and Sales Teams, and Executive Management. With awareness of the concerns and capabilities of these communities, I foresaw and established solution strategies that assure customer satisfaction with legacy, current, and future products.

Externally, I represented NoMagic as a technology evangelist for Enterprise Architectures and for Systems Engineering using the UPDM and SysML. The primary forum for this representation is the Object Management Group where I serve as a member of the UML, SysML, and UPDM revision task force teams.

Currently, I am consulting with Sodius to assist them with their OSLC projects.